Is INGO creating a registry?

[DoggyDaddy]

People post that they're going to shoot up schools or attempt to assassinate political candidates and the feebs do nothing. Do you think they're going to come round you up because you bought or sold a gun on INGO?

 

[firecadet613]

People post that they're going to shoot up schools or attempt to assassinate political candidates and the feebs do nothing. Do you think they're going to come round you up because you bought or sold a gun on INGO?

See below...

You got it. I believe the the main point was that the seller doing buyer feedback, without buyer approval, was tying the buyer to a specific purchase. The seller no longer owns it, they likely have less concern than a buyer that the whole public, even guests on the site can see.

Exactly.....a "public registry"...

 

[DoggyDaddy]

See below...

Saw it. My comment stands. Why would I care if you, or IngoMike or any "guests" see that I bought or sold a gun on INGO. I mean, it's pretty obvious that we have a classifieds section. Should nobody be using it? Gunbroker would be a pretty pointless business venture if nobody used them too. It too is viewable by the public. At least here, I'm not posting any PII like my address or phone number or my mother's maiden name, etc..

 

[armalitesheepdog]

PMs here are more private than you realize. We have had issues before, and even TK as the super admin/owner cant even read them the way the board software authors built it. We can see message counts, but that is all. Yes I can tell you how many conversations are in your inbox, but nothing more.

Thats not saying that an alphabet agency cant get the database and reverse engineer it. But someone with the power to peek into your inbox here? Doesnt exist. (And there were several times staff wished it did)

I will accept that and it’s good to know
Thank you for the clarification

 

[BigMoose]

Its time for a beer break. You all are getting too stressed over this.

 

[Ingomike]

Saw it. My comment stands. Why would I care if you, or IngoMike or any "guests" see that I bought or sold a gun on INGO. I mean, it's pretty obvious that we have a classifieds section. Should nobody be using it? Gunbroker would be a pretty pointless business venture if nobody used them too. It too is viewable by the public. At least here, I'm not posting any PII like my address or phone number or my mother's maiden name, etc..

I believe a buyer should have the right to buy a gun, from a INGO classified, without just any internet user knowing exactly what they bought. We were told part of the site upgrade was for better indexing by google etc. so that purchase data is being scraped. Again, the seller agrees by posting that they are announcing to the world that they are selling, but there is absolutely no reason it is necessary to announce to the world what a buyer bought.

Is that an unreasonable ask?

 

[WebSnyper]

Is that an unreasonable ask?

You'd have to ask @texkev if it is or not from a systematic standpoint.

Right now it's an optional field in the feedback that can either be provided or not, and feedback in itself is voluntary though as you and others have mentioned, it's voluntary on a unilateral basis so either party can send/not send and include or not include that field with/without consent from the other party.


As far as each individual deal, it's on each party to adhere to whatever agreement they come to. Personally if someone said hey I want this, but they don't want feedback or don't want the URL included, I'm fine with that. I always tell someone "I'll drop you some feedback" and would certainly honor if they said please don't.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I believe a buyer should have the right to buy a gun, from a INGO classified, without just any internet user knowing exactly what they bought. We were told part of the site upgrade was for better indexing by google etc. so that purchase data is being scraped. Again, the seller agrees by posting that they are announcing to the world that they are selling, but there is absolutely no reason it is necessary to announce to the world what a buyer bought.

Is that an unreasonable ask?

Then the buyer can simply tell the seller, "Please don't leave me any feedback." Is that an unreasonable request? (BTW, the word "ask" is a verb, despite what the kids these days think. ) And don't get me started on "sketch" (noun or verb) vs. "sketchy" (adjective).

 

[armalitesheepdog]

Did I mention I hate pineapple on pizza. …….just saying

 

[Airtevron1]

Did I mention I hate pineapple on pizza. …….just saying

Never tried it, sounds like heresy

 

[firecadet613]

Did I mention I hate pineapple on pizza. …….just saying

Never tried it, sounds like heresy

Yummy...

 

[BigMoose]

My job is done, another INGO meme has been created.

By the way, Pineapple on Pizza ROCKS.

 

[Honey_and_Vinegar]

I've never looked at the feedback system this way, but I think that brings up a valid point.

I've never asked for feedback from any sellers or buyers, but I've plenty of users ask me to add feedback, and I've gladly added feedback to whomever asks.

Now I'm questioning the feedback system...

 

[Cameramonkey]

I've never looked at the feedback system this way, but I think that brings up a valid point.

I've never asked for feedback from any sellers or buyers, but I've plenty of users ask me to add feedback, and I've gladly added feedback to whomever asks.

Now I'm questioning the feedback system...

Man y'all have some pretty tight tinfoil.

The point of INGO, and the feedback, and the interactions by requiring quality posts/participation is to be better than the sites like gunbroker, armslist etc. You get a feel for who you are dealing with. And if you see someone with zero or negative feedback scores, you can decide whether you think its worth it.

No feedback? Do I want to? Maybe.

Bad feedback? Hells no. I dont need that guy deciding he got a better offer after the virtual handshake or has a history of no-shows.

But you do you I guess.

 

[Honey_and_Vinegar]

Man y'all have some pretty tight tinfoil.

The point of INGO, and the feedback, and the interactions by requiring quality posts/participation is to be better than the sites like gunbroker, armslist etc. You get a feel for who you are dealing with. And if you see someone with zero or negative feedback scores, you can decide whether you think its worth it.

No feedback? Do I want to? Maybe.

Bad feedback? Hells no. I dont need that guy deciding he got a better offer after the virtual handshake or has a history of no-shows.

But you do you I guess.

I agree, and I get all of this. I think this site does a good job of weeding out some truly awful users.

I've always looked at the feedback system as a good thing. Just never thought of it in this "registry" light.

 

[Dim Mak]

Creedmoor will tell you how broke I am. No guns or ammo here. I’m just here for the hugs and friendship.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Creedmore will tell you how broke I am. No guns or ammo here. I’m just here for the hugs and friendship.

Beware of his hugs. He likes to grab your butt.

 

[foszoe]

Creedmoor will tell you how broke I am. No guns or ammo here. I’m just here for the hugs and friendship.

 

[firecadet613]

Man y'all have some pretty tight tinfoil.

No tinfoil here, IMO it's not wise to create a public list of items you've bought... but many here have no issue with it.

The point of INGO, and the feedback, and the interactions by requiring quality posts/participation is to be better than the sites like gunbroker, armslist etc. You get a feel for who you are dealing with. And if you see someone with zero or negative feedback scores, you can decide whether you think its worth it.

Agree 100%, just not on linking the "deal"...

 

[Airtevron1]

Man y'all have some pretty tight tinfoil.

The point of INGO, and the feedback, and the interactions by requiring quality posts/participation is to be better than the sites like gunbroker, armslist etc. You get a feel for who you are dealing with. And if you see someone with zero or negative feedback scores, you can decide whether you think its worth it.

No feedback? Do I want to? Maybe.

Bad feedback? Hells no. I dont need that guy deciding he got a better offer after the virtual handshake or has a history of no-shows.

But you do you I guess.

Ataway mod, criticize the user's of the forum like that