Indy LTCH holder nabbed in Bloomington

[ghitch75]

Why do you not think this was the case?

What was a guy from Indy doing at 0230 in BMG on top of a parking garage "watching" people and then wants the cops to know that he has sighted in the entrance to Kilroys and its 66 yards? Just because he didnt have a rifle with him, doesnt mean he doesnt have one for the date of his planned attack. He might have just been doing recon.

These mass shooters plan out their incidents. Sometimes for weeks. They dont just show up randomly and start shooting. Most all of the mass shootings are planned and thought out by an obivous sick mind, but thought out at the least.

What makes many of you think this guy wasnt a Wolf? A sick, twisted wolf?

I think the security guard and Police did their jobs as Sheepdogs and made an effort to protect the flock. What must happen now is followup. They need to get a good handle on this nutjob as much as possible.

The guy in CO had a shrink and now it comes out that the shrink did go to the university of CO cops, and they did nothing and ya see where that went.

Hopefully they will find enough on this guy to determine if he actually should be able to own and/or buy firearms.

Hopefully he doesnt learn how to make bombs !

i just don't like that seatin' in a parkin' lot with a legal gun gets you a nut job test and your house seached......

 

[bwframe]

i just don't like that seatin' in a parkin' lot with a legal gun gets you a nut job test and your house seached......

Is that all the guy was doing?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I know I don't like the way it went down, this is absolute bull****. If acting suspicious is enough to get you a 24 hour psych hold, half of Bloomington would be on the 7th floor of the hospital at all times!

Yeah, but to the majority, they all seem normal!

 

[churchmouse]

I like that the same media that members here scream about not getting the facts correct, is the same media that is being taken at its word as accurate in this story.

Yup.....a bit off isn't it.

 

[sig1473]

I know I don't like the way it went down, this is absolute bull****. If acting suspicious is enough to get you a 24 hour psych hold, half of Bloomington would be on the 7th floor of the hospital at all times!

It is the 5th floor FWIW. And there is more to the story then what is being released. Trust me

 

[malern28us]

I dont have a problem with any other things that happened other than the "obtain a warrant to search his house" part. For what? The guy told you he had additional firearms at his house, does this make him a felon? If that is the case everyone could be searched. Somethings fishy.

 

[Hoosierdood]

 

[hoosierdoc]

Out of curiosity, anyone know the occupation of the person arrested?

Strange that this story is ONLY in the herald times as far as Google News is concerned

 

[stephen87]

It is the 5th floor FWIW. And there is more to the story then what is being released. Trust me

Oh yeah? How'd your eval go?

 

[Jim Duncan]

Paper this am had a story about a man from Indy nabbed in a city parking lot in Bloomington. Not arrested, but held on a 24 hour psych evaluation for "acting suspicious".

He had 2 loaded handguns (and LTCH) on him and a shotgun in the trunk of his car. That was enough to get a search warrant for his home in Indy where they found ~40 "weapons".

Not sure I like the way this went down.

And so the bullsh*t from these bastards begins.

 

[Soonerdoggy]

And yet...

People would be pissed and that's about it. SCOTUS has already ruled on several occasions (most recent being in 05) that the police do NOT have a constitutional duty to act/protect.

So... people would be upset and ***** and complain but then nothing... and as long as people are allowed to protect themselves then that is as it should be.

they ruled that "Police do not have a duty to act/protect an individual, but they do have a duty to the people as a whole."

 

[Ted]

IC 12-26-4-1
Law enforcement officers; authority to apprehend, transport, and charge an individual with a mental illness
Sec. 1. A law enforcement officer, having reasonable grounds to believe that an individual has a mental illness, is dangerous, and is in immediate need of hospitalization and treatment, may do the following:
(1) Apprehend and transport the individual to the nearest appropriate facility. The individual may not be transported to a state institution.
(2) Charge the individual with an offense if applicable.
As added by P.L.2-1992, SEC.20. Amended by P.L.40-1994, SEC.55; P.L.99-2007, SEC.129.

IC 35-47-14-1
"Dangerous"
Sec. 1. (a) For the purposes of this chapter, an individual is "dangerous" if:
(1) the individual presents an imminent risk of personal injury to the individual or to another individual; or
(2) the individual may present a risk of personal injury to the individual or to another individual in the future and the individual:
(A) has a mental illness (as defined in IC 12-7-2-130) that may be controlled by medication, and has not demonstrated a pattern of voluntarily and consistently taking the individual's medication while not under supervision; or
(B) is the subject of documented evidence that would give rise to a reasonable belief that the individual has a propensity for violent or emotionally unstable conduct.
(b) The fact that an individual has been released from a mental health facility or has a mental illness that is currently controlled by medication does not establish that the individual is dangerous for the purposes of this chapter.
As added by P.L.1-2006, SEC.537.

IC 35-47-14-2
Warrant to search for firearm in possession of dangerous individual
Sec. 2. A circuit or superior court may issue a warrant to search for and seize a firearm in the possession of an individual who is dangerous if:
(1) a law enforcement officer provides the court a sworn affidavit that:
(A) states why the law enforcement officer believes that the individual is dangerous and in possession of a firearm; and
(B) describes the law enforcement officer's interactions and conversations with:
(i) the individual who is alleged to be dangerous; or
(ii) another individual, if the law enforcement officer believes that information obtained from this individual is credible and reliable;
that have led the law enforcement officer to believe that the individual is dangerous and in possession of a firearm;
(2) the affidavit specifically describes the location of the firearm; and
(3) the circuit or superior court determines that probable cause exists to believe that the individual is:
(A) dangerous; and
(B) in possession of a firearm.
As added by P.L.1-2006, SEC.537.

IC 35-47-14-3
Warrantless seizure of firearm from individual believed to be dangerous
Sec. 3. (a) If a law enforcement officer seizes a firearm from an individual whom the law enforcement officer believes to be dangerous without obtaining a warrant, the law enforcement officer shall submit to the circuit or superior court having jurisdiction over the individual believed to be dangerous a written statement under oath or affirmation describing the basis for the law enforcement officer's belief that the individual is dangerous.
(b) The court shall review the written statement submitted under subsection (a). If the court finds that probable cause exists to believe that the individual is dangerous, the court shall order the law enforcement agency having custody of the firearm to retain the firearm. If the court finds that there is no probable cause to believe that the individual is dangerous, the court shall order the law enforcement agency having custody of the firearm to return the firearm to the individual.
(c) This section does not authorize a law enforcement officer to perform a warrantless search or seizure if a warrant would otherwise be required.

 

[longbow]

It is the 5th floor FWIW. And there is more to the story then what is being released. Trust me

The fifth floor is so bland. Concerning the rest of the story, it will leak out. and I'll leave it at that for now.........

 

[longbow]

Thankfully they did not find thermal cameras or night vision.........

 

[sig1473]

Oh yeah? How'd your eval go?

Probably a lot better then some of the members on here.......

On a side note, they found more then 40 guns. They only took possession of ~40........

 

[foszoe]

I like that the same media that members here scream about not getting the facts correct, is the same media that is being taken at its word as accurate in this story.

Please don't lump me in that group!

I usually respond based on the premise that the media report is true, but that doesn't mean I believe the report is actually true.

More of a IF this report is true then this is what I think about it.

 

[Jim Duncan]

Probably a lot better then some of the members on here.......

On a side note, they found more then 40 guns. They only took possession of ~40........

What is the limit on the number of guns one person can own?

 

[sig1473]

What is the limit on the number of guns one person can own?

There is no limit.

 

[Jim Duncan]

There is no limit.

I wasn't sure... I just wondered why 40 mattered.

 

[long coat]

How would the laser ranging play into that theory?

I have never used a range finder, could it be used as a telescope. Its all he had to see if his wife is cheating on him.