Indy cops story doesnt match video

[Trigger Time]

This is concerning! I would like to know why it seams the truth wasnt told in the report by the officer. Also is force realy necessary in a situation like this? Time will tell i guess.

WISHTV.com

here is a better link thanks to rambone:

Youtube link:
[video=youtube;g4s3xIK4a8I]www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4s3xIK4a8I[/video]

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I know T-Mike, so I'll stay out of this one.

 

[Rob377]

Cops lie on reports to cover their butts? I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you.

 

[Trigger Time]

I know T-Mike, so I'll stay out of this one.

A lot of people knew david bissard too and stuck up for him only to be betrayed. And no that wasnt a jab at impd, its just the biggest example. Sometimes people do things that dont match what we know of them.
Im not sure what to think of this yet but im trying to understand how the officers written statement can differ so much from the actual video footage? If the officer was justified then awesome! I dont want to have to give some out of state a-hole $700k of our tax money if we dint have to.

 

[buckstopshere]

Hey, that's your community police officer of the year in action. Looks like he's what other officers should be aspiring too.

 

[foszoe]

I wish these threads didn't have to exist. It makes me sick to my stomach.

 

[buckstopshere]

A lot of people knew david bissard too and stuck up for him only to be betrayed. And no that wasnt a jab at impd, its just the biggest example. Sometimes people do things that dont match what we know of them.
Im not sure what to think of this yet but im trying to understand how the officers written statement can differ so much from the actual video footage? If the officer was justified then awesome! I dont want to have to give some out of state a-hole $700k of our tax money if we dint have to.

I don't think it's hard to understand at all. He used excessive force, knew it and lied on his report. That's just good old fashion CYA.

Let me get this straight, a business owner from Maryland helps to bring a convention that drew presumably several thousand people to Indianapolis, IN along with their money to spend in downtown restaurants, shops and hotels gets assaulted by a police officer and somehow, he's the "out of state a-hole"?

Im curious though, what could this man have possibly said that would result in misdemeanor charges being filed and justification for being slammed to the ground in the hotel and outside?

 

[2ADMNLOVER]

is force really necessary in a situation like this?

Was force necessary ? Did you watch the video ?

The guy clearly posed an immediate threat waving his finger around like that and then folding his hands behind his back .

He needed to be taken down before he went on a tirade / rampage and used both hands to illustrate his point . Clearly he didn't get the point the first time and needed to be taken down AGAIN while hand cuffed ! Some folks just don't learn .


This is just ANOTHER " isolated incident " , never mind what the video shows , before the cop bashing starts we should wait for the officer's side of the story .

Oh wait , we already have it .

 

[the1kidd03]

I always try to give the benefit of a doubt in these situations. I understand how difficult dealing with some segments of the community can be and how the job can change a man's perspective. However, there is nothing in this video that I can see which would warrant such force. Really, short of giving an immediate threat to the officer, nothing verbally which validates such treatment either IMO.

 

[Trigger Time]

Yeah it looks like he said something to the officer before he was taken down (eventually). I was thinking it was done out of anger for not liking whatever was said. I hope not.
it will be interesting to hear the testimony of the hotel staff.
Either way, big fail on the part of the impd higher ups for not knowing this footage even existed and being blindsided by the media. Didnt look good.

 

[CathyInBlue]

Cops lie on reports to cover their butts? I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you.

JBT tasered you? Wot fer?

So, what was happening in his hotel room? Was it ransacked? Was it even burgled? Inquiring minds want to know.

In my experience, police reports frequently diverge from objective reality with impunity. All they have to do is claim the natural vagarities of human memory, "I do not recall, your honor." and all that. They only get hoisted on that petard when there is a concrete record of events that can be used to compare and contrast their "official" story.

 

[Mark 1911]

This is disgusting.

 

[Bunnykid68]

I want to see any video the one employee may have gotten on his phone before he was threatened with being tazed

 

[MeatyBacchus]

I'm guessing the Officer told the arrestee to lower his voice after the arrestee made some final comments to hotel security.

Thats when the arrestee said, "I don't have to." And it appears the copper flipped out. Pretty disgusting.

I wonder if the hotel gave away the room, or somehow let someone into their room by mistake?

 

[Rob377]

I bet that guy kept his hands behind his back just to antagonize the officer into battering him and using some creative dramatic interpretation in the report. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes....amiright?

 

[MisterChester]

"Force was used." You really think so, chief?

 

[IndyDave1776]

"Force was used." You really think so, chief?

Exactly. I would say the chief wins the prize for the stupid quote of the year. He could have done a far better job of salvaging his credibility by reminding us that regardless of the video presented there is still a requirement for due process which will be carried out rather than saying something stupid in the attempt to minimize something that really can't be minimized.

 

[Trigger Time]

Exactly. I would say the chief wins the prize for the stupid quote of the year. He could have done a far better job of salvaging his credibility by reminding us that regardless of the video presented there is still a requirement for due process which will be carried out rather than saying something stupid in the attempt to minimize something that really can't be minimized.

i dont know how this guy was picked for the chief spot but I've wondered several times about his credentials after seeing him interviewed. I have my own opinions on why he was chosen but i dont want to get the thread sidetracked. Maybe he was formerly a community organizer.

 

[IndyDave1776]

i dont know how this guy was picked for the chief spot but I've wondered several times about his credentials after seeing him interviewed. I have my own opinions on why he was chosen but i dont want to get the thread sidetracked. Maybe he was formerly a community organizer.

I would consider it a safe bet that when ordered to jump his only question is 'how high?'

 

[Dead Duck]

Come on guys. Read the story.


"in town for a convention" - I know what happens at these conventions.

"dinner downtown" - What else do they serve downtown besides food?

"replied that he did not have to, while sticking his finger in my face." - His hands were NOT behind his back the whole time.

As for the "throw down" outside? Watch it again without bias.