Indianapolis Getting worse.......

[armedindy]

Indianapolis homicide rate up 60 percent over 2012 - 13 WTHR Indianapolis

 

[churchmouse]

But....who is killing who and for what reasons....Drug trade, rip offs and collections.

 

[phylodog]

We're only 685 officers short of the national average here in Indy. But I'm sure that has nothing to do with it.

 

[armedindy]

i heard theyre trying to remedy that... but with only like 200 officers...so i dunno

 

[LPMan59]

all we need to do is give the Ten Points Coalition $5 million....

 

[phylodog]

If they hired 50 officers a year, starting this year, it would take 7 years to get the manpower back to what it was in 2007 when they merged the departments. We were significantly understaffed then, it is beyond critical now.

Doesnt help when someone can shoot nine people and be back on the streets in less than two years.

 

[s-works]

Are they counting marion county sheriffs in this 685 shortage?

indy has a larger sheriff presence than most metro areas do they not?

 

[phylodog]

Are they counting marion county sheriffs in this 685 shortage?

indy has a larger sheriff presence than most metro areas do they not?

Why would they? They don't have any jurisdictional responsibilities outside of the jail and the city county building. They aren't certified police officers, they don't have beats to work.

MCSD has more people running around in uniforms than they did before the merger. The merger was done under the guise of eliminating the duplication of services. Seems something isn't right there, wouldn't you say? I'd think a taxpayer or two might question what was going on but apparently it's a non issue.

 

[s-works]

Thanks for clearing that up.

Saw on the news that the 100 or so they are adding are just replacing retiring officers. Technically they are not even adding officers.

I had a guy who I am pretty sure was a drug dealer say that violence goes up when the drugs dry up.

 

[VUPDblue]

I, for one, am getting tired of the mopes shooting each other. It's irritating, and it takes whomever responds to the scene off their beat for hours at a time, adding to the manpower shortage.

The Sheriffs do not help with calls for service in Marion County. Not at all.

IMPD retires +/- 50 officers per year. Adding 50 recruits next year and 50 the year after that won't make a dent.

Violence doesn't go up when the dope dries up. Heroin is making a resurgence, a huge resurgence, and it is contributing to the violence and some of the "nonviolent" deaths.

This summer isn't even a typical summer, weather wise, yet our homicides are off the hook. If it were 95+ degrees every day like last year, you may as well call out the national guard to keep the peace. We are lucky in that regard.

 

[drillsgt]

We're only 685 officers short of the national average here in Indy. But I'm sure that has nothing to do with it.

Probably not, you could likely be overstrength and I doubt it would cause people to not kill each other if they are heck bent on doing it.

 

[phylodog]

While I agree that you cannot prevent murders, taking the thugs off of the streets certainly helps.

 

[armedindy]

we should all just be more aware that the bangers and dealers are extra hyped up this summer....so keep an eye out and be safe....im not too upset about the police issue tho, as i see enough of them and dont feel in too much danger just cause theres a few less of em

 

[churchmouse]

While I agree that you cannot prevent murders, taking the thugs off of the streets certainly helps.

Exactly. And keep them off the streets.

Saw two fights and several drug deals go down in the last 4 working days at the double 8 markets around the city. Whats crazy is they see me working there...do not care, no fear of any kind.

 

[s-works]

Measure was voted down tonight.

I hope that the officers we do have out there are safe.

 

[armedindy]

Measure was voted down tonight.

I hope that the officers we do have out there are safe.

what measure?

 

[s-works]

what measure?

RTV6 - Council fails to override Mayor Ballard's veto - Local Story

 

[Destro]

The Sheriffs do not help with calls for service in Marion County. Not at all.

what about the wagons?

 

[MCgrease08]

Mayor Ballard vetoed a city- county council plan that would have used $6 mil in public works money to pay for more officers this year. He said he didn't want to use one time money for an ongoing expense.

Tonight the council was trying to override the veto. They failed.

Council unable to override Mayor Ballard?s veto on police funding | Fox 59 News ? fox59.com

 

[Cameramonkey]

It was pointed out somewhere (NPR, etc) that typically, the current murders arent as bad as you would expect. Not that this makes it better... but looking at statistics, in the vast majority of these cases the following is true: They already have a criminal record, and they know the victim.

So its slightly comforting to know that Although the murder rate is up, as long as you arent a felon or associate with said felons, your likelihood in being killed (other than as a bullet catching bystander) is pretty damn low.

Dont get me wrong, I wont be putting my sidearm away in the big vault for storage without its ammo anytime soon. It will remain on my side quite often.