Indiana Black Expo, what are you doing to get ready?

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    jsharmon7

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    I wondered about this. How much of this guy leaning into my car punching me in the face do I put up with before I put one between his beady little eyes? I think I would have had it in hand when I saw him approaching and his big fat mouth running.

    If I recall correctly, Serious Bodily Injury includes unconsciousness, which is how a couple of these guys ended up. The moment he attempts to strike you in the head, I would consider it immediate risk of SBI. Just my :twocents:.
     

    MarkM

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    If I recall correctly, Serious Bodily Injury includes unconsciousness, which is how a couple of these guys ended up. The moment he attempts to strike you in the head, I would consider it immediate risk of SBI. Just my :twocents:.

    +1. About the time the guy was half way in my car yelling. I would have put one though his eye socket.
     

    45calibre

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    No joke, I certainly wasn't expecting some of the comments posted. Certainly most people are trying to be civil, but the comments about opening kool aid stands, watermelon stands, fried chicken, strapping down TVs, etc is pretty unnecessary and in extremely poor taste.

    thats hilarious i didnt even see those posts.:laugh:
     

    Benny

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    No joke, I certainly wasn't expecting some of the comments posted. Certainly most people are trying to be civil, but the comments about opening kool aid stands, watermelon stands, fried chicken, strapping down TVs, etc is pretty unnecessary and in extremely poor taste.

    The only one you mentioned that I saw was the one about strapping down TVs. I completely agree the other ones are completely unnecessary and tactless, but if this event does cause a sudden increase in crime like everyone says, then the TV comment was quite appropriate IMO.
     

    eldirector

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    I've heard about all kinds of cultural events, but I'm specifically addressing dates and times. How were these events publicized?

    Which year did you attend the Expo and you felt like you weren't welcome? What happened to make you feel like you weren't welcome. Anyway, I guess, due to your reply, you don't go a lot of places you don't necessarily feel welcome, but I suggest you try it. You just may meet some nice people who will not only make you feel welcome, but you may find that you have a lot in common with them.

    I wouldn't suggest you take your wife and infant daughter for a walk around the circle after dark on any Saturday night. I often see a lot of bikers around there on Saturday nights and they look pretty mean. Years ago, I was told not to ride downtown on Saturday nights or not to go into any town with ...wood, ...ville, etc., in the name. I go wherever I want and yes, I take my family with me. If it's a public event, I welcome myself.

    Since you asked nicely:

    I have not attended officially scheduled IBE events. Some might be somewhat interesting, but many don't really interest me. My experience with IBE has been limited to the actions of the attendees.

    Case in point:
    My last experience while downtown during IBE a few years ago. I didn't realize the weekend, and attempted to take my wife to dinner. While sitting in traffic outside of the convention center (we were on our way to to Acapulco Joe's), listening to booming stereos blasting very hateful, degrading, and inappropriate "music", I was call several derogatory names from folks in other vehicles or on the sidewalk exiting the convention center. Several other folks flashed what I could only assume was some sort of gang sign, shouted at me and my wife, and pounded on the hood of my truck. One fine citizen actually asked "Hey Cracker, how much for the white b!tch?". Yes, I left in a hurry.

    This behavior seems to fall in line with the behavior reported by local news agencies. This is the type of behavior I have no desire to participate in or associate myself with. If other IBE attendees DO NOT behave this way, then good for them. However, this is what I have witnessed and what I associate with the event. Maybe is I went downtown in the morning, when these wanna-be gangsters and thugs were sleeping it off, I would have a different experience. Problem is, I'm not a morning person either!

    I have often been downtown with my wife in the evenings. The Circle and other areas downtown are full of all kinds of interesting characters, of all races, backgrounds, and ethnicity. It has been years (decades) since I have felt unsafe at the Circle or within a few blocks. Most folks go about their business, and are just having a good time.

    As for not going places where I "don't feel welcome". You are darn right. It isn't a race, religion, or ethnic thing, either. I don't go to biker bars for the same reason I don't go downtown during IBE. Just not my cup of tea, even if those bikers and I have a lot in common otherwise!

    How were some of these other cultural events advertised? I'm not gonna track all that down. I do know that WTHR does a What's Happening and a Cultural Spotlight about every day. I'm sure other newscasts do the same, and the Indy Star has an Entertainment section specifically for, well, entertainment. These and radio/TV commercials are usually where I learn of events.
     

    Colt556

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    Let me preface this by saying I think the whole Black Expo Celebration is racist. If you tried to have a White, Brown, Red or Yellow Expo the poop would hit the fan. That being said I also think that there are a good number of honest hard working and sincere blacks trying to do a good thing here. Like many gatherings there are bound to be bad apples. Unfortunately the BE has a higher than average number of bad apples. When you have a group that thinks they are entitled to special privilidges and consideration there is bound to be an air of "I can do as I please". When the AG of the US drops charges against an obvious racist member of the New Black Panthers b/c he is black only adds fuel to the fire. I wish that there was an American Expo that we could all attend. Why is everyone so concerned about culturalism? It seems more divisive than anything else to me. Many blacks say that they want equality and equal treatment on one hand but on the other they want entitlements and special treatment. And before anybody says I'm a racist I lived at 23rd and Park in the 60's. I was the only white boy in the 6th grade and have been called every racist and derogatory name there ever was for a white person. The night MLK was shot we were huddled in our apartment b/c of the near riots outside. All of our windows were broken out, my dads car was destroyed and my small plastic swimming pool was cut to shreds. We then moved to an all white neighborhood for 7th/8th grade and then had the priviledge of being in the 1st year of Busing in Indianapolis! I went to Tech during the riots. I learned to fight quickly and tried to get an education. I finally quit on my 18th birthday and joined the Navy. I have seen more racism from the blacks I've met than the whites. I have several black friends that cringe when they see or hear of stuff like the New Black Panthers. But I hope things go well over the next week. We don't need any more trouble brewing in the city. How's that Post Racial Politics working for ya? I think it went from bad to worse.
     

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    i have been to the international festival the past 2 or 3 years and had a great time no shootings or fights or anything. lots of great food and lots of ppl representing various cultures from around the world (the belly dancers are the best:rockwoot:)
     

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    Given the historical record of this event, it would be wise for people of all types, colors, sizes, creeds, races, ethnicities, religions, species, shapes, etc. to avoid downtown Indy during the event.

    But then I'm a silly person who prefers to avoid places where bad things are more likely to happen than other places.
     

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    Given the historical record of this event, it would be wise for people of all types, colors, sizes, creeds, races, ethnicities, religions, species, shapes, etc. to avoid downtown Indy during the event.

    But then I'm a silly person who prefers to avoid places where bad things are more likely to happen than other places.


    Rhino, I've SEEN you. Why would you, of all people, be afraid of places like that? I can't see why anyone would want to mess with you.
     

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    No joke, I certainly wasn't expecting some of the comments posted. Certainly most people are trying to be civil, but the comments about opening kool aid stands, watermelon stands, fried chicken, strapping down TVs, etc is pretty unnecessary and in extremely poor taste.

    Boohoo, they stereo type us and guess what must of us fulfill the stereo types. Oh and dare I say it they fulfill theirs too. So label me racist, say my jokes are in poor taste. People say mean things all the time. And if its not about you suck it up who cares. Unless you are black and the stereotypes offend you I don't think you should whine about it. Plain and simple. I'm probably gonna make people mad with this. But guess what suck it up. Now that I got that off my chest I'm gonna lock my door before Jesse Jackso shows up.
     

    Expat

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    That still doesn't make it right.:twocents:

    I have never understood some of those stereotypes though. Being from down South, let me assure you that there is no black person that likes fred chicken, barbecued ribs, turnip or collard greens more than I do or most of the family... oh and sweet potato pie... mmmm
     

    Colt556

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    No joke, I certainly wasn't expecting some of the comments posted. Certainly most people are trying to be civil, but the comments about opening kool aid stands, watermelon stands, fried chicken, strapping down TVs, etc is pretty unnecessary and in extremely poor taste.

    I only saw the comment about strapping down the TVs. Are you suurrreee you saw the others?
     

    MarkM

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    Oh BTW if anyone did label me the racist white guy.I do have black friends I just don't like ghetto thugs. And I'm not fully whit I have. Cherokee in me. No hard feelings with anyone. Just had to make that known incase I shook a hornets nest.
     
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    Long post, condensed.

    I am really surprised by that. Most of the places I have been where one black man or woman shows up in a group of white folk, everyone bends over backwards to welcome him/her. In fact I often wonder if they will make the guy uncomfortable being overly friendly. But that has just been my experience.

    Social/cultural roadblocks are responsible for this. I've personally noticed this amongst the liberal minded.
    The worse part of it, I've also seen the situations where the group of white folks, doesnt put them on a soapbox, and watch out for the accusations of racism, bigotry to start flying.

    redneckmedic
    - YEEEEEHAW!!! Wait was that racist against whites in the country? :RollsEyes:..

    I actually just saw the Polly shore movie, Inlaws, I think it's called. I hope this doesnt get me banned, but I think that movie is really funny.

    JetGirl
    - Actually think YOUR idea is a good one. Indiana could use a Gun Owners Expo.

    45calibre - How many folks there do you think were illegally armed? convicts? Best thing to do in a situation like that, keep friggin driving, it's a situation where you are asking for what you get.

    I have a wife and children, and simply cannot risk they're safety for liberal fluff over cultural differences.

    04DarkShadowGT
    - I didnt see the watermelon/fried chicken puns. Only one I saw was the T.v, and I wouldnt half way blame said poster, or think anything is wrong with that comment.
    There is major difference between carmel/fishers/country life and inner city - Which I think was his point.

    I drove through Martinsville afew months ago, looking for a new home, I was surprised to see house after house door wide open at 2am (long drive through Indiana), such is never the occurance in Indy on Hamilton St.





    When you have a group that thinks they are entitled to special privilidges and consideration there is bound to be an air of "I can do as I please".

    The entitlement agenda is rooted from Communist to cause disruption within American politic's, and look at it's success.

    When the AG of the US drops charges against an obvious racist member of the New Black Panthers b/c he is black only adds fuel to the fire.

    It has nothing to do with 'being black' IMO. After Obama spill with the Henry Louis Gates situation, I researched Obama, he's connected to Black Panthers, Afrocentrics and other groups that would be called racial extremist.

    He's just ensuring his militant backers arent punished.

    Why is everyone so concerned about culturalism? It seems more divisive than anything else to me. Many blacks say that they want equality and equal treatment on one hand but on the other they want entitlements and special treatment.

    Culturalism defines a people, as to they're mentality.

    We can easily look at M.E. culture and observe how bad it is over there; Likewise we can look at culture in Japan, and see a very beautiful one, I mean if you take away the disgusting kiddy porn they serve up, not half way bad.

    There is, IMO a distinct difference between American culture and the culture of the Black community. Which is perhaps due in part for the greater amount of they're history they were not considered Americans citizens or who knows, I can only speculate.


    The night MLK was shot we were huddled in our apartment b/c of the near riots outside.

    I wonder how many people know of Communism's agenda concerning MLK or why -

    On January 31, 1977, United States district Judge John Lewis Smith, Jr., ordered all known copies of the recorded audiotapes and written transcripts resulting from the FBI's electronic surveillance of King between 1963 and 1968 to be held in the National Archives and sealed from public access until 2027.

    Martin Luther King, Jr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    I personally cannot understand why America celebrates this communist. The real story of him, quite a tad different than the one promoted in School.:rolleyes:

    How's that Post Racial Politics working for ya? I think it went from bad to worse.


    Obama has done more than enough to cause a 1950s feel of racial tension, in part due to his own agenda; Calling law abiding, veterans who just happen to be White, terrorist, calling the police who arrested the lunatic Henry Louis gates (Known communist/Afrocentric with ties to Black power groups), stupid, only to find out how wrong he was.

    He's the root of all evil, everyone else is merely revolutionary reactionaries to his disgusting agenda.
     
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