illegal immigrant protesters in downtown Indy face deportation

[Glockapoppadopolis]

Let's reverse the typical immigration scenario for a minute. Say I was an unemployed auto worker living in Detroit. I lost my job because GM closed the factory I work at and opened a new one in Mexico. There are no opportunities for new work anywhere near me, so I say screw it, I'll head down to Mexico. I sneak south across the border, make my way to Guadalajara, walk up to the factory and say hey, I know how to build cars, give me a job right now. Do you think they'd just let me into the country and start talking about how I deserve the chance to work in Mexico and become a Mexican citizen? Hell no, they would throw my sorry butt in jail and I'd quickly become someone's seniorita. So why should we bend over backwards to help out illegal immigrants when no other country would do the same?

Exactly, and why not say Canada since your scenario is in Detroit. They might not throw you in jail but still no job or free meal. Heck, US citizens who have jobs that might occasionally take them to Canada are scrutinized and refused entry for the smallest offense on their record. Documented US citizens that aren't trying to immigrate but just travelling for business are denied entry daily. Where are all the bleeding hearts at for this? IMHO I think they have the right idea but why can they take such an extreme stance and it's aok with the world but we can't even keep people from entering illegally without being accused of being heartless bastards. Seems backwards to me.

 

[96firephoenix]

food for thought.

 

[sadclownwp]

food for thought.

exactly, the indians didn't protect there borders well enough, and didn't kill or send back the people invading there lands, we should learn a lesson from that.

 

[spearheadersarge]

somebody somewhere needs to get their agenda lined out to end this thing once and for all. I bet if a Presidential candidate put forth a strict immigration stance they would be elected hands down. So far in all the past 50 years, both parties have played lip service to this situation. I say some hard ass needs to get elected and start putting the screws to whoever won't do their jobs and kicking illegals back to where they came from! Illegal is illegal, here in Indian just like in California or Arizona. If the libs don't like it they can go live in Mexico with the deportees!!!

 

[jeremy]

I hate people who break the law as much as anyone, but this case hits home for me.

I know one of the 5 people who are here illegally in this case on a personal level (knew, we haven't spoken in 2+ years), and I know her story and can sympathize with her plight.

She came here at the age of about 17 with her family, who was fleeing religious persecution in Mexico (one of the drug lords was killing catholics in their area). They tried to go through the process of political asylum, but since it was the drug lords and not he government, they were denied asylum. The family got temporary visas which lapsed, and her father, who made a good living in Mexico as a chemical engineer is now forced to work as a janitor. The woman is an excellent musician, incredibly smart, a good friend to have and a devout Catholic (may not count as a plus for some, lol). They lost nearly everything when they came here, and then got shafted when they came here with nothing because it is so damn expensive to come here legally that they couldn't be "legals."

I realize that this is kinda a minority opinion and I'm prolly gonna get a ton of neg-rep for this, but this is not an issue of legal or illegal, it is an issue of right and wrong.

So why not stay there and do something about the Problems instead. Nah that requires Cojones. That requires that you do something with your community. That requires Responsibility...

Much easier to run away 2,000 miles and bring the same attitude to a Different Country...

It is actually more expensive to come here illegally, by the way...

Is it right that a piece of paper that costs nearly $30,000 to get (cost to a friend from Poland to get a green card) takes away someone's right to an education?

Did your friend from Poland tell you about the Grants he is eligible for from State to reimburse him for his expenses and provide him a stake for his first 7 years here...

 

[2ADMNLOVER]

So why not stay there and do something about the Problems instead. Nah that requires Cojones. That requires that you do something with your community. That requires Responsibility...

Much easier to run away 2,000 miles and bring the same attitude to a Different Country... .

THIS ^ , is why I have very little respect for any illegal .

Instead of fighting to make their country a better place to live they pack their families and problems up and come here .

 

[Baditude]

There are a few things to consider:
1) There are approximately 3 million illegals and the majority are not educated
2) The USA spends .41 out of every dolllar on debt interest
3) We have about 10% unemployment
4) Even if we legalize the illegals, they would not contribute to the system as they would be below poverty level and be given food stamps, welfare, education and healthcare. This would further increasing the burden on our country that is on the verge of a financial collapse any way.

Why is it the USA's sole resposibility to be the world's police and humanitarian? Why don't all the oil rich nations and China flip the bill - they have surplus money.

 

[femurphy77]

They are breaking federal law. I don't care if they personally swam the Rio Grande, was carried over by a "coyote", was squirted out shortly after they pulled the plug out of mommas baby chute, on this side of the border, or they had a "by" from the tooth ferry. I don't care if they pay taxes, work hard, discovered the cure for the common cold or more importantly the morning after hangover.

See the first sentence! I've told (illegal) neighbors to their face, and had them laugh at me and tell me that nobody would do anything.

See the first sentence! They are criminals and should be treated as such, in this case escorted back to the point of entry of their choice and released with a not so gentle nudge out of the country.

See the first sentence!

 

[gunman41mag]

5 arrested in immigration protest face deportation | The Indianapolis Star | indystar.com

Illegal aliens are angry about legislation that will take away their in-state tuition rates. They were arrested yesterday after breaking into Gov. Daniels outer office. Now that they could be deported, they are on a hunger strike....

What is a hunger strike supposed to accomplish? Am I supposed to feel sorry for somebody that refuses to eat when they are given food because he/she is pissed? I thought it was kids did that crap at the dinner table.

SEND them all back

 

[IndyBeerman]

There are a few things to consider:
1) There are approximately 3 million illegals and the majority are not educated
2) The USA spends .41 out of every dolllar on debt interest
3) We have about 10% unemployment
4) Even if we legalize the illegals, they would not contribute to the system as they would be below poverty level and be given food stamps, welfare, education and healthcare. This would further increasing the burden on our country that is on the verge of a financial collapse any way.

Why is it the USA's sole resposibility to be the world's police and humanitarian? Why don't all the oil rich nations and China flip the bill - they have surplus money.

3 million, where in the world did you get that UNDER-INFLATED number, multiply that number by a minimum of 10 and throw another .5 in for good measure.

Illegals are a big reason the Republic of Kalifornia is in the mess that they are financially, they are being bleed dry for medical, schooling and welfare.

I'd bet that almost every mexican restaurant in central Indiana is 90% employed by illegals.

 

[Baditude]

3 million, where in the world did you get that UNDER-INFLATED number, multiply that number by a minimum of 10 and throw another .5 in for good measure.

Illegals are a big reason the Republic of Kalifornia is in the mess that they are financially, they are being bleed dry for medical, schooling and welfare.

I'd bet that almost every mexican restaurant in central Indiana is 90% employed by illegals.

Fox Business news, I agree seems low maybe they meant 3,000,000 /year? But even if you were to just use the 3million figure our system can't take the burden of that many more free loaders

 

[thompal]

Meh, if they're paying taxes, they should have the same access to those programs as anyone else.

The state resident tuition rate is for legal residents of Indiana only. If you aren't a legal resident of Indiana, then you pay the out-of-state rate.

You can't be a legal resident of Indiana if you aren't a legal resident.

All of those protestors complained about how difficult it was to become a citizen. I work with a LOT of immigrants from nearly every country on the planet. ALL of them, except those from Mexico, have learned English, and have become, or are in the process of becoming, US Citizens. And all of them that have learned English and have become citizens support enforcing immigration laws, and really despise illegals.

It's my opinion that if they are flaunting US laws, they should not get ANY taxpayer subsidies. Why should Indiana residents subsidize people who refuse to obey laws?

 

[IndySSD]

The state resident tuition rate is for legal residents of Indiana only. If you aren't a legal resident of Indiana, then you pay the out-of-state rate.

You can't be a legal resident of Indiana if you aren't a legal resident.

All of those protestors complained about how difficult it was to become a citizen. I work with a LOT of immigrants from nearly every country on the planet. ALL of them, except those from Mexico, have learned English, and have become, or are in the process of becoming, US Citizens. And all of them that have learned English and have become citizens support enforcing immigration laws, and really despise illegals.

It's my opinion that if they are flaunting US laws, they should not get ANY taxpayer subsidies. Why should Indiana residents subsidize people who refuse to obey laws?

This is pretty much 100% of my experience, I've worked with quite a few Indian, Palestinian and Chinese immigrants who all resent illegal immigrants because of the amount of effort they themselves have put forth to make a better life for their families. They also despise the fact that because they are immigrants that the illegal immigrants cast a negative shadow on them.

 

[signut49]

What do you not get? They are in this country illegally. What the f--- don't you understand???????????????????

Meh, if they're paying taxes, they should have the same access to those programs as anyone else.

 

[signut49]

+10---- If they are illegal and they are protesting, load 'em up, ship 'em back!

That was heartwarming, but illegal is still illegal, there is no grey area on this matter. Drop them back across the boarder and bill them for the ticket.

 

[Phil502]

If you want to be heard on the subject through faxes/emails and make phone calls to your elected officials than this is a great place to start. It's all free and they know their stuff.

www.numbersusa.com

They keep you informed on whats going on and when is the right time to be heard, when a vote or decision is beind made, kind of like a GOA for citizens who are tired of the endless bs that we are fed about illegals being just fine and dandy as our country becomes the socialist mess that is Mexico.

Press that for English.

 

[USMC_0311]

+10---- If they are illegal and they are protesting, load 'em up, ship 'em back!

So if they are ilegal and not protesting they can stay?

One thing that ain't going to happen is a mass round up and ship'em back. Some of you need to get rid of your hate and look at this as an opportunity.

 

[E5RANGER375]

So if they are ilegal and not protesting they can stay?

One thing that ain't going to happen is a mass round up and ship'em back. Some of you need to get rid of your hate and look at this as an opportunity.

sorry i cant stop hating illegal invaders. why wont a roundup of illegals happen? other presidents in history have done it and it was very successful. the problem is that America fails to have a continuous backbone. we get one when its do or die after an attack has happened, or at the last minute before disaster, but as disasters happen slowly like with illegal immigrants we fail to have a backbone.

if we demand a roundup then it will happen. WE THE PEOPLE are ultimately in control of this country if people stand up and get a voice.

I dont want anymore immigrants coming to this country at all from any country or color ect (my personal opinion), but especially not illegals.

 

[sadclownwp]

Some of you need to get rid of your hate and look at this as an opportunity.

An opportunity to round them up and ship them back? Personally I think it would be cheaper to shoot them on the spot for being terrorists that are a drain on the government. Unless they can prove that they are not a drain on the government before they get shot. And I'm not racist cause I think that citizens who are a drain on the government deserve no better. I am so sick of seeing people buy things that I can't afford on a regular basis with those worthless hoosier cards. I don't even see those things as people anymore, just worthless animals.

 

[signut49]

Thanks for the negative rep for expressing my opinion. You are right that they will not be rounded up and shipped back. Too big of a voting bloc for the Democrats. I don't hate them. They are here illegally. What don't you get? What is the opportunity? How many do you have working for you? Quit stealing the phrase from the Geico commercial, you Jack Wagon. With attitudes like yours, we are well on our way to becoming a third world sh--hole! It is apparent from your response that you did not comprehend my statement.

So if they are ilegal and not protesting they can stay?

One thing that ain't going to happen is a mass round up and ship'em back. Some of you need to get rid of your hate and look at this as an opportunity.