How does the pocket gun crowd deal with multiple well armed attackers?

[Route 45]

You certainly don't know whether your handgun could save you against the threat that has you way outgunned or not...
...Unless of course, you don't make any effort at all to to try to be prepared for this.

Tren de Aragua have to eat, just like the rest of us. Where else, other than Kroger, would you think they do their grocery shopping?

That's a perfect example of the mistaken thinking you can avoid the criminal element with your good sense and situational awareness. Food, fuel and other consumables are needed by the illegals the same as Americans. A lot of times the gangs and thugs and illegals have to venture out of the ghettos due to the food deserts created by business' that just can no longer operate in the high crime areas.

By my observations, I'm more concerned with Johnny Methbilly at my local Kroger than a pack of Venezuelans.

You absolutely can avoid the criminal element the majority of the time by good sense and situational awareness. There are rare occasions, of course, but reality is not the zombie apocalypse that you are making it out to be. And whatever magic talisman you think your Glock and a couple of spare mags is, it's marginally better than a P365 and a couple of spare mags.
And no more effective against mutliple armed attackers. We're not talking the difference between a pathetic J frame and a modern service pistol here.

If you think a half second faster draw and 15+1 instead of 13+1 is going to save you against a couple of guys who know what a tactical V is, well...good luck.

 

[bwframe]

...If you think a half second faster draw and 15+1 instead of 13+1 is going to save you against a couple of guys who know what a tactical V is, well...good luck.

So you think those fine young yutes wearing slides, with a gun in one hand and a phone in the other know what a "tactical V" is?



The proper hardware isn't gonna save us from anything, but at least it could be adequate for the task, in the right hands. Could be proven skills might tip that scale?

Your pocket draw is only a half second slower than a belt holster draw? Whatever you say...

 

[Route 45]

Your pocket draw is only a half second slower than a belt holster draw? Whatever you say...

Muh draw speed.

 

[bobzilla]

What happens when the "shady" comes to you? Or you run into the "shady" as they are on the way to the apartments you are not going to?

Well, if they’re out here in the sticks they’re going to be mighty surprised at what happens next.

Seriously, I swear some of you don’t realize that not everyone lives in a city or burb. Or worse you think that all cities are a literal running gunfight everywhere every day. Carry what you’re comfortable and proficient with. Go to a few of Allen’s carry matches to test your setup out (and have some fun with like minded individuals while you’re at it) and live your life.

I wouldn’t mind having my old 24/7 compact back, but that’s only 3 more rounds in the gun and the reload is 4 more. So instead of the 16th a on me with a reload it’s 23. But finding one of those has gotten pretty hard.

 

[bwframe]

 

[92FSTech]

Our world is changing, I won't argue that. And I'll aso agree that bad stuff can happen anywhere, even in the sticks. Some level of preparedness is important.

I'm definitely not viewing the world through rose colored glasses. Due to my job I'm aware of pretty much every violent incident that happens in my county. I've faced down plenty of violent people, and apprehended them. I'm also aware of who those incidents happen to, and the circumstances leading up to them. It pretty much boils down to don't be a doper or a drunk and don't hang out with them, and you've separated yourself from 95% of our local criminal violence.

Yes, there's still a remote chance that you can be targeted or walk into somebody else's problems through bad luck, and we need to be prepared to deal with that. But I also need to live my life, play ball with my kids, wrestle my dog, take my morning run, long walks with my wife, work on the house and cars, etc. I still carry a gun during those activities, but it's typically a little gun. I'm not going to allow the tiny odds that I may be approached by someone with violent intent on my own property cause me to carry some giant duty pistol every minute of the day and forego regular activities because of it. Nor am I going to allow the media to terrorize me into not living my life by sensationalizing every horrible thing that happens anywhere.

I still have the bigger guns, and I carry them regularly when appropriate. They're also readily available inside my home if I need them. It's a personal choice, and each of us has to evaluate his own level of risk, proficiency, degree of concealment, activity level, etc. If I see local trends changing, I'll adapt accordingly, but at this point I have a system that works for me and I'm pretty confident that it's adequate for my needs.

 

[bwframe]

 

[bobzilla]

OMG THE WORLD IS ENDING!