How does everyone set up their home defense AR?

[KJQ6945]

Damn! I’m fat!!

 

[Creedmoor]

It could be worse, there are 8 inch barreled HK roller locked firearms.. in 7.62x51

Years back I bought a HK 53 and my best friend bought a 53 and a 51.
I don't think he has ever shot either of his. The 53 is a fireball, I can't imagine what the 7.62x51 would be like.

 

[Creedmoor]

Damn! I’m fat!!

G3K, one doesn't see loads of those around. Is it HK, Vollmer with a sear pack?

 

[BigMoose]

Years back I bought a HK 53 and my best friend bought a 53 and a 51.
I don't think he has ever shot either of his. The 53 is a fireball, I can't imagine what the 7.62x51 would be like.

A flashbang grenade going off at 700 RPM...

 

[KJQ6945]

A picture I took 6+ years ago. The top rifle is a 16” Colt 6920. It is the minimum allowed by law.

All pictured are rifles, most are SBRs and every one can be suppressed, with the two cans in the picture, from 6 years ago. There are more cans now.



Home defense from in your face distance, to a couple hundred yards. Nothing but red dots in the pictures.

Distance, to me, is what home defense is about. I have 1,000 yard guns, but short of the collapse of civilization, you can’t justify a shot beyond 10-20 yards.

 

[KJQ6945]

G3K, one doesn't see loads of those around. Is it HK, Vollmer with a sear pack?

I’ll have to check with the owner and I’ll let you know.

 

[KJQ6945]

G3K, one doesn't see loads of those around. Is it HK, Vollmer with a sear pack?

Text the owner here’s the reply.

Originally a Fleming 51, that was roached out. Shooting it as a 51 was not pleasant. I had it made into a G3K by Ralph at RDTS.

 

[KJQ6945]

He’s on Texas Gun Talk, TGT.


I sent him the link to this thread, hopefully he will respond, since I’m talking about his guns.

 

[Creedmoor]

Text the owner here’s the reply.

Originally a Fleming 51, that was roached out. Shooting it as a 51 was not pleasant. I had it made into a G3K by Ralph at RDTS.

Thank you.

 

[tcecil88]

I recently moved and that made me rethink my HD choices. I went from a one story Duplex with a basement with no exterior access to a 2 story with basement that has exterior access. 2 stairwells to deal with now and lots more rooms and hidey holes for an intruder. I changed up from a 16" 5.56 AR and a 18" 12 gauge to a 8" 9mm AR and a 12" Shockwave loaded with Mini-Shells as my primary HD guns. Both are set up with red dots and Streamlight WML's and lots of extra ammo. I don't plan to clear the house if an intruder gets in but to bunker up and call the Calvary. I'm too old to clear the house, so I'll let the people who are trained for it do it.

 

[dudley0]

Curious if they make mini shotshells that are good for HD.

I have an over/under SBS with 12-3/4 barrels. It has no choke at all. I haven't pattered it but my guess is it would be all over the place down a short hallway even with flight control stuff.

 

[JoeSig]

Curious if they make mini shotshells that are good for HD.

I have an over/under SBS with 12-3/4 barrels. It has no choke at all. I haven't pattered it but my guess is it would be all over the place down a short hallway even with flight control stuff.

How LETHAL is a 12 Gauge Mini Shell??? (Shockwave 590s vs Human Torso)

^^^Youtube video that may help you (and the OP)

I will reach for my shockwave first, other shotgun second, or P320 third. Running #4 buck in the shockwave. It patterned well at 20ft so it became my castle defender.

I just do not see ARs as being viable for home defense. My 300blk AR with a PEQ, light, Eotech and suppressor may not look as cool to a jury of yuppies.

Edit: I think one of the best "weapons" for home defense is a local lawyer's business card in your wallet who is well versed on defensive firearm use cases. Hand that to the responding officer and respectfully decline to speak because you have just been through a very traumatic event and would like to consult with your lawyer on how to proceed.

 

[tcecil88]

Curious if they make mini shotshells that are good for HD.

I have an over/under SBS with 12-3/4 barrels. It has no choke at all. I haven't pattered it but my guess is it would be all over the place down a short hallway even with flight control stuff.

The Aquila Mini Slug is a 385 gr. (7/8's ounce) slug running 1300 fps according to the Aguila website. That's on par with a .44 Magnum when I did the math awhile back. I'm sure I'm not getting that out of my Shockwave, but I guarantee you it's lethal. My Shockwave patterns very well with both the Aquila Mini Slug and Hornady Critical Defense @ 25 yards. It really surprised me how well a 14" barrel with IC choke did.

 

[dudley0]

Nice looking slug pattern for sure.

Do you have a birdshead grip on that?

 

[Dean C.]

Curious if they make mini shotshells that are good for HD.

I have an over/under SBS with 12-3/4 barrels. It has no choke at all. I haven't pattered it but my guess is it would be all over the place down a short hallway even with flight control stuff.

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Honestly this stuff is the ticket and at only 1145fps it’s a light recoiling load IMHO

 

[ECS686]

I don’t use my AT’s as a primary home defense platform however I have one set up with a Vikings Tactics light mount and Aimpoint Patrol Rifle Ootic (it works and was similar to the M68 I ran and has been great through about 10,000 rounds)

Then I have a second one that is straight up stock. Removable carry handle A2 Irons nothing special

 

[daddyusmaximus]

The Aquila Mini Slug is a 385 gr. (7/8's ounce) slug running 1300 fps according to the Aguila website. That's on par with a .44 Magnum when I did the math awhile back. I'm sure I'm not getting that out of my Shockwave, but I guarantee you it's lethal. My Shockwave patterns very well with both the Aquila Mini Slug and Hornady Critical Defense @ 25 yards. It really surprised me how well a 14" barrel with IC choke did.
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Seeing as we're talking shotguns in a home defense AR thread... and coming up with .44 magnum ballistics... Why not throw a .44 mag lever gun into the mix?
Not too awful long, 10 rd capacity, definitely lethal, fast shooting, low recoil, can have a red dot & light, can be a take-down for travel. (HD in the hotel room)

 

[KJQ6945]

Seeing as we're talking shotguns in a home defense AR thread... and coming up with .44 magnum ballistics... Why not throw a .44 mag lever gun into the mix?
Not too awful long, 10 rd capacity, definitely lethal, fast shooting, low recoil, can have a red dot & light, can be a take-down for travel. (HD in the hotel room)

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Part of me cringes, part of me loves it.

Well done sir!

 

[daddyusmaximus]

Part of me cringes, part of me loves it.

Well done sir!

Cringe again... It has a .357 little sister.

 

[camaroz2808]

A picture I took 6+ years ago. The top rifle is a 16” Colt 6920. It is the minimum allowed by law.

All pictured are rifles, most are SBRs and every one can be suppressed, with the two cans in the picture, from 6 years ago. There are more cans now.

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Home defense from in your face distance, to a couple hundred yards. Nothing but red dots in the pictures.

Distance, to me, is what home defense is about. I have 1,000 yard guns, but short of the collapse of civilization, you can’t justify a shot beyond 10-20 yards.

Using entry red dots, like trs-25, tra-26, and Romeo 5 being the most expensive. They've worked well with trs-25 having the highest round count 3+k, and still like new. I've been looking at higher end ARs and optics, but just don't know if they're worth it. What you noticed a difference?