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Shooter
- Nov 19, 2008
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Read that back to yourself. Pull back just a little and read it. If you do, you'll see that you're making our point, way, way better than we can.
Scary.
They're just following orders, dontcha know?
Read that back to yourself. Pull back just a little and read it. If you do, you'll see that you're making our point, way, way better than we can.
Scary.
BTW, I've never touched a single joint, bong, one hitter, etc.
BTW, I've never touched a single joint, bong, one hitter, etc. The closest I've ever come to pot was some dudes down the row from me at an AC/DC concert when I was 13. I'm 34 now.
The fact that my employer forbids it does more to prevent me from trying it than any law on the books. I work in a factory with high voltage and very dangerous equipment. I don't want a person next to me whose judgment has been altered by alcohol or drugs. It should be the employers right to determine whether someone wants to smoke a doobie on their own time. If Bob, the convenience store clerk wants to toke away, how does that harm me? Having a good career and a well paying job is way more important to me than dope. It's a choice I make for myself. I don't need a nanny enforcer looking over my shoulder to make that choice for me.
So are you "just following orders" also?
I follow orders, it's kind of necessary to keep my job and continue to feed my family. If some idiot puts me in a position that I need to take enforcement action, that's not on me. It's completely on them. Selling drugs is illegal. Don't sell, possess, or use drugs and I can't do anything to you. Truth is, if you are a smart drug user, you will probably get away with it forever. The only time you are likely to get caught is when you have drugs in the car. Don't smoke it or roll it in your vehicle and the likelyhood of me knowing it's there or has been there is very small. Like I said, I don't go digging for this crap but in order to keep my job, I have to act when it's put right in front of me. I'm sure there are aspects of your job that are not fun but you have to do to ensure you keep your job and keep your work area safe. If you notice someone is high/drunk, would you report them to your supervisor? Or would that be meddling in their business and you would just hope no one found out you knew if an accident happened.
I also have never smoked the crap. I don't understand those that do as the smell is completely heinous both before and especially after it is burnt.
In my job, I have ZERO power to exercise authority over someone else. I have ZERO power to put them in jail. So you will jail gun owners once guns are banned to feed your family? I will not abuse the liberty of others for my own personal gain.
At my work place, we have hydraulic presses with 750 tons of capacity. If I were working on it and my coworker was under the influence of alcohol or drugs, yes I would report them. They'd most likely be fired but again, I have ZERO authority to arrest them.
So why is the right to bear arms in the Constitution? Could it be because the crafters of the Constitution realized that if it wasn't actually protected, it could be outlawed? Why do we, as gun owners, always state our 2nd Amendment rights instead of stating that there's nothing in the Consititution that outlaws gun ownership? If the Constitution doesn't limit the government, the government will expand, like a parasite.
While I don't disagree with this...I still cannot for the life of me...understand why people continue to risk it.
Is it really worth it? Risking selling (or buying) a few pot plants and chance 10 years in prison.
Hypothetically, if guns were banned and someone had the lack of sense to get caught with one, I would arrest them. If someone is a convicted domestic batterer and they let it be known to me that they have guns, I will confiscate them and file charges.
Thankfully, I don't see guns becoming illegal during my life (especially if I keep speaking my mind on INGO, someone may track me down). I also don't see marijuana becoming legal in my life.
Thankfully, I don't see guns becoming illegal during my life (especially if I keep speaking my mind on INGO, someone may track me down). I also don't see marijuana becoming legal in my life.
While I don't disagree with this...I still cannot for the life of me...understand why people continue to risk it.
Is it really worth it? Risking selling (or buying) a few pot plants and chance 10 years in prison.
are you really old? because i see both happening soon (pot & guns). i wont ever give up my guns alive to anyone and I do know a lot of people who wont either, and not just talk about it.
if they outlaw guns, I wouldnt wanna be one of the guys coming to get them from people. just saying. sometimes money isnt the most important thing in life. & sometimes a worthless cause isnt worth it either. I have cop buddies that I KNOW beyond a shaddow of a doubt wont confiscate guns. thems the good guys
So why is the right to bear arms in the Constitution? Could it be because the crafters of the Constitution realized that if it wasn't actually protected, it could be outlawed? Why do we, as gun owners, always state our 2nd Amendment rights instead of stating that there's nothing in the Consititution that outlaws gun ownership?
If the Constitution doesn't limit the government, the government will expand, like a parasite.
People don't seem to read what I've been writing. Perhaps because I place it in long responses. I have had many stops where people have been armed. When I was brand new, I disarmed one guy. That won't happen again. I have yet to run one serial number from a gun that was not involved in some other crime (ran one for an INGO member at their request once), and have never checked someone's LTCH. There's a big difference between actively looking for a crime and having one put in your face.
I try everyday to make a positive difference in my community. I try to make all my decisions go toward that goal. There are aspects of my job that I don't always like doing. Writing speeding tickets to the tune of $150 for someone going 15-20 over the limit is not enjoyable but something that I must do occasionally. Bringing a kid back to central Indiana from Lake County for a Minor Consuming Alcohol charge that lead to a probation violation is something that I was ordered to do but did not enjoy. I try to balance adherance to the law with the cost to taxpayers when deciding what kind of enforcement action to take. Non-violent offenders typically find themselves sent on their way with a summons (exception=OWI, no sleep lost for those). Those who are intoxicated in public typically find a ride home in my car as long as they aren't acting a fool leading to a call that lead me to them.
When my job becomes one that is not effective at making a positive difference in my community, I will resign. When I am required to take enforcement action on citizens for exercising rights, I will resign.
I said that's what I'm paid to do. Digging for stuff and chasing it is different than having it thrown in your face, like the marijuana arrests I've made. If they would order that guns be taken away, I will refuse to go look for them. If they are illegal and I find one sitting on the floorboard of someone's car, I have little choice but to act on what I see.
Read that back to yourself. Pull back just a little and read it. If you do, you'll see that you're making our point, way, way better than we can.
Scary.
Hypothetically, if guns were banned and someone had the lack of sense to get caught with one, I would arrest them.
are you really old?
$31 bucks of pot didn't put this woman in prison; being a drug dealer who used children in her trade and had them around did.
All thoughts on simple possession and use of marijuana aside, dealing drugs is currently a far different proposition. It brings in incredible violence and danger as well as association with extremely violent and dangerous people. Include a kid in that activity and I couldn't care less if they throw away the keys.
Remember the two Moms and kids that got whacked here in Indy on Hovey street in a pot robbery gone bad?
IMO, claiming this was over $31 of weed is intellectually dishonest.
Joe
But it was selling the pot that got her arrested. The kids were just a factor that contributed to her higher sentence.
Dealing marijuana is dangerous BECAUSE it is illegal. To make something dangerous by making it illegal when it shouldn't be, then to punish someone because they exposed kids to the danger caused originally by the law itself is the height of irony.
Ten years for dealing drugs with you kids is NOT the same as "ten years for marijuana"...
Also, I'm really curious to hear the names of these people you know who allegedly were convicted of Child Molesting and got 6 mos. Really really curious...
Joe