Had a deputy sheriff bust my chops...

[42769vette]

i live on a farm and with that drive a atv in the ditch alot. i usto carry the ic code in my wallet saying i was not breaking the law. it saved them taking forever to look it up

 

[GI JOE]

I was so pissed with the d-bag deputy that I didn't even think of asking the IMPD's name... I was nervous

 

[JBusch8899]

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[E5RANGER375]

Terry v. Ohio grants LE the authority to disarm, cuff, and perform a pat down. There is no basis upon such to report this. However, there is cause to report same for the blatant ignorance of the law in which are charged to enforce.

well i think other cases dispute the above case. I will not be cuffed and patted down for no reason.

OP, i would call the sheriffs office during daily business hours and give his name and ask to speak to his supervisor. deputies only handle the jail and court services so why was this deputy going out of his area of knowledge?

I would file a complaint in writing to the sheriff himself and also the deputies supervisor. send it by certified mail and get it notarized, so it doesnt accidently disapear.

 

[Pami]

One of yall have a link to the Indiana constitution about carry laws so I can print it up and carry that with me...?

From the INGO FAQ: https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...16185-ingunowners_faqs_sticky.html#post187167

Someone should create a list of pertinent Indiana Codes that I can carry around in my wallet in case Something Bad happens!
Interesting you should mention that...
https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/carry_..._ic_codes.html

 

[finity]

One of yall have a link to the Indiana constitution about carry laws so I can print it up and carry that with me...?

The IN constitution doesn't give the laws it just affirms the right to carry.

Here are the links to the carry laws. There are several:

Indiana Code 35-47-2

Indiana Code 35-47-6

Indiana Code 35-47-9

http://www.ai.org/legislative/iac/T00680/A00010.PDF (Riverboat casino - prohibited)

http://www.in.gov/legislative/iac/T00800/A00040.PDF (state fair prohibited)

http://www.in.gov/legislative/iac/T03120/A00080.PDF? (DNR properties - state parks, FWA, etc. - allowed)

http://www.lrl.usace.army.mil/opto/article.asp?id=77 (USCoE prohibited)

Indiana Code 14-16-1 (ATV carry)

 

[GI JOE]

I had not one problem with being dissarmed... Even though deputy TIM DAVIS of the marion county sheriffs dept was being a complete ass... he had his children with him and I didn't want to scare them

 

[sj kahr k40]

Terry v. Ohio grants LE the authority to disarm, cuff, and perform a pat down. There is no basis upon such to report this. However, there is cause to report same for the blatant ignorance of the law in which are charged to enforce.

Has to be a lawful stop, IMPD should have known it was an unlawful stop and acted accordingly.

 

[E5RANGER375]

I had not one problem with being dissarmed... Even though deputy TIM DAVIS of the marion county sheriffs dept was being a complete ass... he had his children with him and I didn't want to scare them

well his kids probly already knew he is a dumb ass so you just confirmed it for them

 

[Scutter01]

Unfortunately, there is no law that says open carry is legal because that's not how laws work. The onus is on him to prove that it's ILlegal, which he obviously could not do. Carrying the IC around with you will therefore probably be of little use.

 

[Roadie]

Wasn't there a recent case where it was determined that just carrying, was not, in and of itself, a lawful reason to stop someone?

 

[Roadie]

Just realized how relevant my Sig Line was...

 

[Calvin]

After reading post after post of experiences like this I am left befuddled. I can understand LEO not being versed on every aspect of the law. After all, he/she is not a lawyer. However, I am always left wondering why they cannot be 100% accurate when it comes to the everyday issues that they deal with. For instance, it would seem that most LEO are perfectly familiar with the traffic laws in their jurisdiction. Why wouldn't they ALL be perfectly versed in something as common and important as the handgun carry laws of the State of Indiana?!? Why should we be forced to carry copies of Indiana Statute around or wait through ridiculous situations such as the one of the OP? It strikes me as a selective amnesia of sorts.

 

[sj kahr k40]

The bigger question is can any of these cops read, it says right on the pink piece of paper, License to Carry Handgun, nowhere does it say concealed.

 

[IndySSD]

I would report the deputy and the IMPD officers, they had no reason to disarm you, they need a little training as well.

The duputy asked the IMPD to dissarm me because why?... WTF? I don't know if I should report him or not?

Why did they disarm you? file a complaint on the deputy and get that deputy in some CRAP!!

+1 to IMPD for knowing the law

-1 to IMPD for disarming him, which according to past court cases is against the law without PC

-20 to the d-bag deputy. look for another career rather than harrassing citizens. and learn the law you swore an oath to

+1 to IMPD for actually knowing the law, but why were you dissarmed?

Terry v. Ohio grants LE the authority to disarm, cuff, and perform a pat down. There is no basis upon such to report this. However, there is cause to report same for the blatant ignorance of the law in which are charged to enforce.

Thanks JBusch for posting the precident but I think what we as responsible LTCH holders need to realize is that these IMPD officers did not know he was clean (and not just playing possum until he needed to open fire) until the end of the interaction.

IMPD disarmed him for their own safety while running checks on him. This is protocol and trying to report them for it will probably get your claim vs. the deputy ignored (Even though it is well founded. )


Point is, Deputy is a D-Bag but IMPD did the right thing when responding to a MWAG call. Doesn't sound like they unlawfully detained you, they just checked your credentials. They didn't hook you up and toss you in the back of the cruiser... they just made sure they were safe while verifying your information.

 

[JBusch8899]

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[360]

I was so pissed with the d-bag deputy that I didn't even think of asking the IMPD's name... I was nervous

Why?

 

[IndySSD]

The bigger question is can any of these cops read, it says right on the pink piece of paper, License to Carry Handgun, nowhere does it say concealed.

Kahr did you not see where the IMPD officer handed the firearm back to OP and let him continue OC?

Glass houses and stones remember?

 

[E5RANGER375]

SafeShootingDad, I disagree. keeping him from leaving past looking at his LTCH was unlawful detainment. they didnt even have the right to see his drivers license

 

[sj kahr k40]

Thanks JBusch for posting the precident but I think what we as responsible LTCH holders need to realize is that these IMPD officers did not know he was clean (and not just playing possum until he needed to open fire) until the end of the interaction.

IMPD disarmed him for their own safety while running checks on him. This is protocol and trying to report them for it will probably get your claim vs. the deputy ignored (Even though it is well founded. )


Point is, Deputy is a D-Bag but IMPD did the right thing when responding to a MWAG call. Doesn't sound like they unlawfully detained you, they just checked your credentials. They didn't hook you up and toss you in the back of the cruiser... they just made sure they were safe while verifying your information.

Carrying a gun is not a reason to by stopped, he was illegally detained and disarmed.