Guns are about to be banned at Home Depot

[actaeon277]

My own personal opinions never meet to to change or offend anyones.

Your opinion is your opinion. I'm just stating, don't you think maybe you've eliminated a few reasons people don't OC.
Perhaps the opposite of attention. Maybe, they just don't care if someone sees them. It's like putting on pants.
Do you think, "Oh no, what if someone sees this pair of pants"?
Some do it, cause it is more comfortable.

If I'm doing it to attract attention, I must be doing it wrong. Cause no one seems to be running or pointing.

 

[Caleb]

So what qualifies them as Baboons and not you? Open carry is open carry, and a gun is a gun? I would imagine a nonsupporter to say such remarks however from one that appears to open carry not so much.

Unlike them(guy on the right mainly), I keep my stuff holstered and my paws off my gun while in public and not in a low ready position.

 

[cbhausen]

Maybe that "low ready" position was just a pose for a picture? How the hell does anyone who wasn't there know how he acted while he was in that store? Hell, the anti-gun crowd doesn't need go up against us. We do a good enough job fighting ourselves. And don't get me started about the use of the word baboon. Totally out of bounds.

 

[cbhausen]

Private property laws were changed? I must have missed that.

What I said. They don't ban guns, just people.

 

[Caleb]

Maybe that low ready position was just a pose for a picture? How the hell does anyone who wasn't there know how he acted while he was in that store? Hell, the anti-gun crowd doesn't need go up against us. We do a good enough job fighting ourselves. And don't get me started about the use of the word baboon. Totally out of bounds.

So should it be acceptable and responsible to pull my pistol from the holster and hold it in a low ready to pose for a picture?

 

[cbhausen]

When I see a person open carry I think they are trying to impress someone.The object of being armed is to protect yourself and family.To me this is not the old west.Oh just to say I consider it a privalege to conceald carry and I do everyday.I have never had a issue and hope I never do.I was tought and practice from concealed carry by Clint Smith over 35 years ago.

So you consider CC a "privalege" (sic)? Have you ever read the Bill of Rights? Flush out your headgear.

Yes, I'm still in a bad mood...

 

[cbhausen]

So should it be acceptable and responsible to pull my pistol from the holster and hold it in a low ready to pose for a picture?

If everyone around you knows you're just posing for a picture I think it could be acceptable in some circumstances.

 

[Caleb]

If everyone around you knows you're just posing for a picture I think it could be acceptable in some circumstances.

How would they know if you were posing for picture?

 

[cbhausen]

How would they know if you were posing for picture?

Maybe because he's getting shot by a camera instead of doing the shooting?

Furthermore, he is NOT at the low ready position. Low ready means the rifle is shouldered which would be MUCH more threatening.

firearmshistory.blogspot.com/2012/03/shooting-positions-ready-positions.html?m=1

 

[CTS]

When it comes to open carry I have no problem with it, but if you say appearances don't matter in how you react to a visible gun I would have a hard time believing you. A young thug looking type with baggy clothes and tattoos, is going to get a different reaction to having a gun on their hip than a guy in a suit. It may be "wrong" but it's true. A few people walking into a restaurant with long guns are going to look a lot different than the same number carrying sidearms.

 

[cbhausen]

Why? Because there are way too many amongst us who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a firearm. The left will never be our worst enemy. We provide them ourselves.

So who gets to make that decision? Talk about a slippery slope. The antis love these kinds of attitudes.

 

[cbhausen]

When it comes to open carry I have no problem with it, but if you say appearances don't matter in how you react to a visible gun I would have a hard time believing you. A young thug looking type with baggy clothes and tattoos, is going to get a different reaction to having a gun on their hip than a guy in a suit. It may be "wrong" but it's true. A few people walking into a restaurant with long guns are going to look a lot different than the same number carrying sidearms.

They would capture my full attention but I would not react at all if they were not threatening. And by threatening I mean by their actions not their appearance.

 

[Denny347]

Hell, the NRA are even saying "back off"...

Fearing Rising Backlash, NRA Urges Gun Activists to Stand Down | Mother Jones

 

[Tyler-The-Piker]

 

[Bobby]

I won't cover up to make you or anybody feel better, but I won't come in with a gun in a low ready like some of these baboons that try hard to tarnish "responsible" gun owner's image.

Gun totin' baboons:

In reference to this now infamous picture of the two guys taken inside Chipotle, here is a quote from Open Carry Texas's Facebook page when THEY addressed it:

Did you know?

Open Carry Texas members have always sought permission to enter an establishment prior to going in with our firearms. This has been part of our philosophy since day one and it has worked, with hundreds of businesses across the state 100% in support of what we do and how we do it.


In fact, Jack In The Box management invited that group in with open arms and those patriots there had great conversations about how semi-automatic guns work with the few customers inside. No one inside called the police and no one hid in a freezer, contrary to media reports.


In Chipotle, not only were we invited in, we had two UNIFORMED police officers with us inside the restaurant. Not eating here, mind you, WITH US. There were ten people at that event, not just the two in the photo that the anti-gun media used against us. In fact, that photo was taken expressly because those two patriots were on their FIRST walk with us. Chipotle managements welcome us in with open arms because "we feel safer when you guys are in here." No one called the cops and no one complained to management.


As for the Sonic issue, our group in San Antonio has been welcomed at so many Sonic drive-ins in the area, that they forgot our basic tenet of calling first. Most of the Sonic we have been to in that area even provide us with free drinks because, again, they know they won't be robbed while we are there and they appreciate what we are doing. In the latest manufactured controversy, our San Antonio simply didn't think they needed to call since they assumed all the Sonic were just as friendly. This particular Sonic was a new one and by not calling, they didn't know how they would be received. Obviously, it backfired, but it highlights why we insist that our members call first before going into an establishment or send someone unarmed in first. It was a simple mistake that highlights another tenet of our philosophy: if asked to leave we will do so. We respect private property rights.


Every single "controversy" involving OCT members didn't originate in Texas. Rather, the problems were created out of thin air by #guncontrolextremists who haven't event stepped foot in our state, much less the restaurants in which we have been welcomed with open arms. Because none of these establishments have banned guns - only asked we not bring them openly - many of those same franchise owners and managers have reached out to us and said we are still welcome with our guns at their stores. However, out of respect for the corporate request, we have still asked our members not to take their long arms with them.


Don't believe the liberal media. We are dedicated to the SAFE and LEGAL carry of firearms and our mission will not stop until we get open carry of handguns passed in Texas and become the 46th state to do so.

Having the OCT escorted around Chipotle by police officers changes things, doesn't it? Kinda telling to me that MDA conveniently left out that little fact in all of their public pushes on social media to their members.

 

[ModernGunner]

Baloney. That guy on the right is definitely at 'low ready'. It's reasonable and prudent to presume that rifle is loaded, his hold is at a 'ready to shoulder and fire' position and his trigger finger is 'staged'. For all intents and purposes, that firearm is 'drawn' and 'ready to engage'. GOOD way to get shot by LEO's, or another customer.

How does anyone know his intent? That's exactly the point. No stranger to him would know. And no one should be taking the risk to 'wait and see what he does first'. Uh, unless one thinks they should 'wait until he starts shooting' so they 'know' his intent. 'Waiting' is exactly how a lot of people have been injured or killed in mass shootings, as they fail to comprehend and react quickly to a murderous rampage.

IF he wanted to 'just take a photo with his rifle', why was it not in a scabbard, slung over his shoulder? Or shouldered with a rifle sling? At the very least, slung at the front, hands off, similar to the guy at the left? Nor do we know whether he took that hold 'just posing for a photograph' or whether he had walked in and advanced through the store that way (as was some yabo at a LGS mentioned in a previous post).

No one's kidding anyone here. No one should expect to walk around with a firearm drawn and at the ready without being challenged or 'drawn on', either.

As OCT didn't make that statement on FaceBook until AFTER this specific incident, the claim is dubious. Considering the reaction and action subsequently taken by Chipotle's, etc., one should not believe OCT's 'propaganda' any more than they should believe MDA's.

Acting irresponsibly or in threatening manner, and that qualifies as BOTH, is NOT a 'right'.

 

[cbhausen]

Baloney. That guy on the right is definitely at 'low ready'. It's reasonable and prudent to presume that rifle is loaded, his hold is at a 'ready to shoulder and fire' position and his trigger finger is 'staged'. For all intents and purposes, that firearm is 'drawn' and 'ready to engage'. GOOD way to get shot by LEO's, or another customer.

How does anyone know his intent? That's exactly the point. No stranger to him would know. And no one should be taking the risk to 'wait and see what he does first'. Uh, unless one thinks they should 'wait until he starts shooting' so they 'know' his intent. 'Waiting' is exactly how a lot of people have been injured or killed in mass shootings, as they fail to comprehend and react quickly to a murderous rampage.

IF he wanted to 'just take a photo with his rifle', why was it not in a scabbard, slung over his shoulder? Or shouldered with a rifle sling? At the very least, slung at the front, hands off, similar to the guy at the left? Nor do we know whether he took that hold 'just posing for a photograph' or whether he had walked in and advanced through the store that way (as was some yabo at a LGS mentioned in a previous post).

No one's kidding anyone here. No one should expect to walk around with a firearm drawn and at the ready without being challenged or 'drawn on', either.

As OCT didn't make that statement on FaceBook until AFTER this specific incident, the claim is dubious. Considering the reaction and action subsequently taken by Chipotle's, etc., one should not believe OCT's 'propaganda' any more than they should believe MDA's.

Acting irresponsibly or in threatening manner, and that qualifies as BOTH, is NOT a 'right'.

I do not carry long guns in public unless at an organized rally like the one around the State Capitol a year ago last spring. But I do support Open Carry Texas' mission and their civil rights. The individual on the right in the photo at Chipotle is not acting in a threatening manner, period. Note the panic and fear displayed by the suits in the background. Shoulder a rifle as if firing it and lower the muzzle. That's the low ready position. Not with one side of the rifle against your chest, regardless of how one is holding it.

Let's just agree to disagree here and move on. Neither you nor I are going to change our stance here. I'll remain at "low ready" when it comes to supporting our civil rights.

 

[SteveM4A1]

I'll remain at "low ready" when it comes to supporting our civil rights.

You better watch out, a lot of folks here are going to draw and aim at you!

 

[KLB]

Baloney. That guy on the right is definitely at 'low ready'. It's reasonable and prudent to presume that rifle is loaded, his hold is at a 'ready to shoulder and fire' position and his trigger finger is 'staged'. For all intents and purposes, that firearm is 'drawn' and 'ready to engage'. GOOD way to get shot by LEO's, or another customer.

How does anyone know his intent? That's exactly the point. No stranger to him would know. And no one should be taking the risk to 'wait and see what he does first'. Uh, unless one thinks they should 'wait until he starts shooting' so they 'know' his intent. 'Waiting' is exactly how a lot of people have been injured or killed in mass shootings, as they fail to comprehend and react quickly to a murderous rampage.

IF he wanted to 'just take a photo with his rifle', why was it not in a scabbard, slung over his shoulder? Or shouldered with a rifle sling? At the very least, slung at the front, hands off, similar to the guy at the left? Nor do we know whether he took that hold 'just posing for a photograph' or whether he had walked in and advanced through the store that way (as was some yabo at a LGS mentioned in a previous post).

No one's kidding anyone here. No one should expect to walk around with a firearm drawn and at the ready without being challenged or 'drawn on', either.



As OCT didn't make that statement on FaceBook until AFTER this specific incident, the claim is dubious. Considering the reaction and action subsequently taken by Chipotle's, etc., one should not believe OCT's 'propaganda' any more than they should believe MDA's.

Acting irresponsibly or in threatening manner, and that qualifies as BOTH, is NOT a 'right'.

Maybe people would know his intent because the 10 of them that were there were not acting hostile and there was obviously another person with a camera taking their picture.

If you can't tell the difference between part of a group posing for a picture and someone that possibly means to do harm to others....

 

[SteveM4A1]

Maybe people would know his intent because the 10 of them that were there were not acting hostile and there was obviously another person with a camera taking their picture.

If you can't tell the difference between part of a group posing for a picture and someone that possibly means to do harm to others....

And possibly the two uniformed police officers that were supposedly there? Perhaps some here would draw on them as well.