Guns and Weed.

redpitbull44 · Nov 17, 2013

warthog · Nov 17, 2013

Thanks, as you can see it was dredged up recently with new replies.

There are still a couple of bad links but I am gonna post it as a playlist once I view it all.
That will then play them all end to end smoothly so there won't be more than a single link to follow.

Lebowski · Nov 17, 2013

redpitbull44 said:
I was asked to repost this so that everyone could view it more easily. Funny to think that a thread I started 3 years ago is still occasionally getting responses.

GUNS AND WEED: THE ROAD TO FREEDOM, part 1 of 16 - YouTube

GUNS AND WEED: THE ROAD TO FREEDOM, part 2 of 16 - YouTube

GUNS AND WEED: THE ROAD TO FREEDOM, part 3 of 16 - YouTube

YouTube

GUNS AND WEED: THE ROAD TO FREEDOM, part 5 of 16 - YouTube

GUNS AND WEED: THE ROAD TO FREEDOM, part 6 of 16 - YouTube

GUNS AND WEED: THE ROAD TO FREEDOM part 7 of 16 - YouTube

GUNS AND WEED: THE ROAD TO FREEDOM part 8 of 16 - YouTube

GUNS AND WEED: THE ROAD TO FREEDOM part 9 of 16 - YouTube

YouTube

GUNS AND WEED: THE ROAD TO FREEDOM part 11 of 16 - YouTube

GUNS AND WEED: THE ROAD TO FREEDOM part 12 of 16 - YouTube

GUNS AND WEED: THE ROAD TO FREEDOM part 13 of 16 - YouTube

GUNS AND WEED: THE ROAD TO FREEDOM part 14 of 16 - YouTube

GUNS AND WEED: THE ROAD TO FREEDOM part 15 of 16 - YouTube

GUNS AND WEED: THE ROAD TO FREEDOM - Part 16 of 16 - Credits - YouTube

A couple are missing, unfortunately. I did watch all the available ones.

Was a good watch, a nice libertarian stance on letting people live their lives without negatively impacting others, and that blonde reporter... oh god, I want to marry her.

Alphamale · Nov 24, 2013

Legal and illegal are not the same as right and wrong.

darinb · Nov 24, 2013

Marijuana and guns just dont mix. I can see the argument that the government shouldnt tell us what we can do with our bodies but its more complex of an issue than that. No matter what we do with the laws regarding marijuana we will always face problems with substances like marijuana. I am glad to live in a place that we can change laws but sometimes just because we want to change them we have to use some wisdom because once we make decisions on laws its very very hard to change them again and we could end up worse off as a whole then we started off with. It seems to me that some are using idealistic approaches to issues and not looking at the whole picture.

jbombelli · Nov 24, 2013

darinb said:
Marijuana and guns just dont mix. I can see the argument that the government shouldnt tell us what we can do with our bodies but its more complex of an issue than that. No matter what we do with the laws regarding marijuana we will always face problems with substances like marijuana. I am glad to live in a place that we can change laws but sometimes just because we want to change them we have to use some wisdom because once we make decisions on laws its very very hard to change them again and we could end up worse off as a whole then we started off with. It seems to me that some are using idealistic approaches to issues and not looking at the whole picture.

Are you familiar with how and why weed became illegal in the first place? Here's a hint: it had nothing to do with safety or societal problems. It had everything to do with money and greed.

If our politicians used the same wisdom you demand when they passed laws in the first place, we'd have far, far less of them. But instead, they give each other some harumphs, pass the collection plate to those who are paying for influence, and ram stupid laws down our throats that do nobody any good except for themselves and those who donated to them.

Lebowski · Nov 29, 2013

darinb said:
Marijuana and guns just dont mix. I can see the argument that the government shouldnt tell us what we can do with our bodies but its more complex of an issue than that. No matter what we do with the laws regarding marijuana we will always face problems with substances like marijuana. I am glad to live in a place that we can change laws but sometimes just because we want to change them we have to use some wisdom because once we make decisions on laws its very very hard to change them again and we could end up worse off as a whole then we started off with. It seems to me that some are using idealistic approaches to issues and not looking at the whole picture.

I agree they don't mix, just as alcohol and guns don't mix either. If you want to own guns, sure, I think you should be able to. If you want to kick off your shoes after a 12 hour shift at the factory, light up a joint and relax, fine, that doens't bother me. Wanna have a glass of wine with your dinner? Do it. You're not hurting anyone.

Just don't mix those things

metaldog · Nov 29, 2013

Lebowski said:
I agree they don't mix, just as alcohol and guns don't mix either. If you want to own guns, sure, I think you should be able to. If you want to kick off your shoes after a 12 hour shift at the factory, light up a joint and relax, fine, that doens't bother me. Wanna have a glass of wine with your dinner? Do it. You're not hurting anyone.

Just don't mix those things

Kinda like cars & weed... Eh, Duderino?!

[video=youtube;Fl7o1EB0sYI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Fl7o1EB0sYI[/video]

Lebowski · Nov 29, 2013

metaldog said:
Kinda like cars & weed... Eh, Duderino?!
[video=youtube;Fl7o1EB0sYI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Fl7o1EB0sYI[/video]

Exactly. See, this guy gets it.

mrjarrell · Nov 29, 2013

jbombelli said:
Are you familiar with how and why weed became illegal in the first place? Here's a hint: it had nothing to do with safety or societal problems. It had everything to do with money, racism and greed.

If our politicians used the same wisdom you demand when they passed laws in the first place, we'd have far, far less of them. But instead, they give each other some harumphs, pass the collection plate to those who are paying for influence, and ram stupid laws down our throats that do nobody any good except for themselves and those who donated to them.

FTFY, you left one out.

warthog · Nov 29, 2013

Sorry, I guess I never made a playlist, I just watched all the vids. My bad.

If by money and greed you mean Federal Jobs, you are correct. If not then you need to reread some history.

In any case I have made myself pretty clear on what I think about marijuana and why it should be legalized.
The government needs to make a few good choices and I hope legalizing Marijuana is the first of many.

Stop thinking about guns and MJ for a while and think about BEER or other booze and firearms.

WHY do you folks think that marijuana users will be worse around firearms than alcohol users? I've not seen one study on people who smoke and shoot or smoke and drive for that matter so where does this keep coming from anyway? I doubt many here have a problem with someone having a fridge full of beer along with a safe full of firearms. So how is that any different from having a bag of pot and a safe full of firearms?

INTOXICANTS in general & Firearms are a bad mix. Adding this to the argument isn't really thinking clearly since I doubt anyone here thinks it's OK to be wasted on anything and be handling firearms. All you're really doing is muddying the waters, your point s moot. So how about your real reasons for feeling that Marijuana is so evil vs Alcohol which is apparently just fine?

jbombelli · Nov 29, 2013

It wasn't just "federal jobs." If you think that's all the greed there was YOU need a history lesson. You need to learn who was lobbying against marijuana and why.

Marijuana should never have been made illegal in the first place.

CarmelHP · Dec 5, 2013

I don't like potheads. I don't like drunks for that matter. However, the war on drugs should be ended.

The use and abuse rates have not changed between before drug bans went into effect, and after. That shows them to be ineffective. However, those laws have ben effective in wasting refuses, militarizing the police, incarcerating citizens at one of the highest rates in the world and breeding a massive, wealthy criminal underground that has caused misery and corruption the world over. At least alcohol prohibition was relatively brief, the drug war have been the Hundred Years War so far with no end in sight.

Jludo · Dec 5, 2013

CarmelHP said:
I don't like potheads. I don't like drunks for that matter. However, the war on drugs should be ended.

Drunks are far worse in my experience. The worst I've ever witnessed a pothead do is bore his guests to death.

warthog · Dec 5, 2013

jbombelli said:
It wasn't just "federal jobs." If you think that's all the greed there was YOU need a history lesson. You need to learn who was lobbying against marijuana and why.

Marijuana should never have been made illegal in the first place.

Honestly, I have read all the history and can't figure out what you're talking about but at least we're on the same side of this one.

blink · Dec 5, 2013

warthog said:
Honestly, I have read all the history and can't figure out what you're talking about but at least we're on the same side of this one.

I've read and heard that the biggest lobbying groups were chemical companies who were afraid of what the natural products would do to their synthetics business.

indyk · Dec 6, 2013

blink said:
I've read and heard that the biggest lobbying groups were chemical companies who were afraid of what the natural products would do to their synthetics business.

Watch the "Union"
The who, what, when, where, why, future, present, and past of Marijuana.
The Union: The Business Behind Getting High (2007) - IMDb

warthog · Dec 7, 2013

Yeah, read those things and watched that, it still comes down to those jobs if you ask me.

Aszerigan · Dec 7, 2013

Explain this to me: Everyone that drinks isn't an alcoholic. Why (according to so many of you on this thread) is anyone that smokes pot automatically a pothead?

warthog · Dec 7, 2013

Aszerigan said:
Explain this to me: Everyone that drinks isn't an alcoholic. Why (according to so many of you on this thread) is anyone that smokes pot automatically a pothead?

This is something I have asked too. Seems that all asking does is make them say it more often.

Same goes with handling firearms while "stoned". If you handle them drunk, is that OK? Of course not, so what makes people think that anyone feels the smoking of marijuana equals firearms while stoned automatically? How is it different from people who drink? Does a person drinking automatically mean they are headed to the range to bust a few caps?

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