LeftyGunner
Sharpshooter
You any better?
I am deeply flawed, all I can do is try.
You any better?
Stop trying. You're already there.I am deeply flawed, all I can do is try.
Limited time. I responded to what intrigued me first to reply to.
I think it's reasonable to think that the group that advocates for pedo rights would tend to have more pedos.
Tell me. Does the LGBTQIA+ community accept minor attracted persons as part of their group or not?
Have you had your head burried in the sand for long, or was it just recent?
Ya think?I suppose there are pedos on the right,
but when they're found out, the consensus is, instead of "inclusion" it's this:
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Frankly, I'm just out of patience. But, no. It's not just accusations. I advocate for a fair trial before the wood chipper.
You seemed inclined to take the LGBT side without scrutiny.
A while back there was a report about LGBT group celebrating the removal of a "NO U-turn" sign. They claimed the sign was there because it's a known gay district and was put there to discriminate against them.
You always want proof, (which is good) so here is your proof. A research paper from the national institute of health. straight folks are less likely to be kiddy diddlers.I think pedophiles use the cover of LGBTQ tolerance to try to legitimize their abhorrence by proximity and association. I do not think pedophilia is more broadly practiced or accepted in the mainstream LGBTQ community than it is in any other demographic.
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... the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1. This suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles among persons with a homosexual erotic development is greater than that in persons who develop heterosexually. This, of course, would not indicate that androphilic males have a greater propensity to offend against children.
Silver Lake takes down a couple of No U-turn signs from 1990s
Street signs that officials said previously targeted LGBTQ community members were taken down from a Silver Lake neighborhood Monday.www.nbclosangeles.com
They were put up to slow street prostitution.
Hold on there. I heard that NIH place is a far right wing biased source.You always want proof, (which is good) so here is your proof. A research paper from the national institute of health.Nonstraight folks are less likely to be kiddy diddlers.
The proportions of heterosexual and homosexual pedophiles among sex offenders against children: an exploratory study - PubMed
Previous investigations have indicated that the ratio of sex offenders against female children vs. offenders against male children is approximately 2:1, while the ratio of gynephiles to androphiles among the general population is approximately 20:1. The present study investigated whether the...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Edit: so will you accept that gay individuals are statistically more likely to be pedos now that there is scientific proof?
Until they start trying to study gun violence and then give up when the stats dont look good to them. LOLHold on there. I heard that NIH place is a far right wing biased source.
Would it be a P? They really don't like that word.So, when will they be adding a "P" in the alphabet people acronym to recognize pedophiles? It is obvious they see them as fellow "oppressed" individuals. Own that sh*t and wear it with Pride!
You always want proof, (which is good) so here is your proof. A research paper from the national institute of health.Nonstraight folks are less likely to be kiddy diddlers.
The proportions of heterosexual and homosexual pedophiles among sex offenders against children: an exploratory study - PubMed
Previous investigations have indicated that the ratio of sex offenders against female children vs. offenders against male children is approximately 2:1, while the ratio of gynephiles to androphiles among the general population is approximately 20:1. The present study investigated whether the...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Edit: so will you accept that gay individuals are statistically more likely to be pedos now that there is scientific proof?
If they know of someone in the straight community who is committing these crimes and is not charged, turn them in - we'll burn them tooDid you watch the video?
Are you prepared to address their actual complaint?
They are not arguing that LGBTQ is more likely to commit sexual crimes against children, they are arguing that LGBTQ is more likely to be criminally charged than members of the straight community who have committed those same crimes.
Do they have a point? Who is more likely to get the benefit of the doubt in our society? My mind goes to the drag queen vs youth pastor conversation we had recently here on INGO.
They make the example of sodomy laws. Many of todays most popular categories of heterosexual pornography center on acts of sodomy, indicating that straight people regularly seek out (and engage in) these acts…however, they make the claim LGBTQ are nine times more likely to be charged with sodomy than are straight people.
Looking at it from this perspective, I think they have a valid point: It isn’t just what a law says…how a law is implemented must also be considered...selective enforcement is a breeding ground for injustice.
So you are claiming the abstract of the paper lies and does not represent the actual contents of the paper? That's rich.I have not seen this paper referenced anywhere before. I followed the link, but it only brought up the abstract. When I follow the “read text” link it takes me to a pay site.
Erm…not based on the abstract of one paper alone…one paper is scientific evidence, not scientific proof…and one abstract is less still.
However, I definitely respect this approach...give me something well researched and informative to pique my interest, and I’ll follow my own curiosity wherever it leads. I am certainly more inclined to read that paper you linked with an open mind than the partisan rage-bait that usually gets paraded across my socials.
Based purely on my own anecdotal experiences, I am definitely surprised by the purported ratio of 11:1, and I am certainly curious how they arrived at that number.
I can offer my opinion too, which is informed by reading what many of their leaders write. I can read the inventors of queer theory. I can read studies like the one @Cameramonkey posted. Which, BTW, I think was posted before, and probably in this thread. I think most of the rank and file LGBTQ+ community really doesn't want maps to be part of their community. But plenty of them sure seem to.Fair enough.
I follow you so far.
I am not a member of the LGBTQ+ community, and I cannot speak for them as a group or as individuals…can you?
I can only offer my opinion.
To some extent, like I said, many of them don't want to be inclusive of them. I dunno. Maybe you don't listen to what they're saying. That stuff gets posted here all the time by people like Libs of TikTok. And yeah, you might not be keen to use tiktock as a source, but the content and volume of lunacy is pretty astonishing.I think pedophiles use the cover of LGBTQ tolerance to try to legitimize their abhorrence by proximity and association. I do not think pedophilia is more broadly practiced or accepted in the mainstream LGBTQ community than it is in any other demographic.
I don't really think highly of Andrew Tate, but I don't really think of him as a conservative either. And no, why would I interact with his fanbois? You seriously interact with them?I stuck it down here about two years ago so I could have a face-to-face conversation with MAGA.
Ya think?
Ill assume, then, you haven’t had the pleasure of interacting online with Andrew Tate‘s army of incels?
There's no such thing as alt-right. The people who the left calls "alt-right" aren't actually conservatives.You never answered my questions about Lolicon Hentai and its consumers…I assume it’s because you recognize the affinity the online alt-right has shown for this material, and the implications for your argument.
If only that were true.
It’s not, though…you know that, right?
Well, in this case, my instincts about the likelihood of Pedo's tending to join the group which is more tolerant of them, appear to be supported by the research. People with kinks tend to have some pretty nasty kinks.Okay. Fsir.
I try not to take any position without scrutiny…how closely have you scrutinized your own position?
It does. A lot of pedos pray on young family members and such. I have an extended relative, a female who was raped by her step mother. No one saw that one coming. Pretty shocking. But, no one is saying that pedo's are all in the LGBTQ+ ranks. But damned if we see someone who looks like a nutter, end up being a pedo, and all we can say is, "called it!"The evidence seems rather clear to me: pedophilia crosses all kinds of demographic lines…race, class, education level, political perspective, etc…those creeps pop up everywhere.
Well, it's a lot more than you think.To me, the pedo panic on the right looks a lot more like an attempt to demonize political opponents than it is to address an actual threat.
It's real. It's retarded. We can at least agree on that.If that’s real it’s retarded.
I have not seen this paper referenced anywhere before. I followed the link, but it only brought up the abstract. When I follow the “read text” link it takes me to a pay site.
Erm…not based on the abstract of one paper alone…one paper is scientific evidence, not scientific proof…and one abstract is less still.
However, I definitely respect this approach...give me something well researched and informative to pique my interest, and I’ll follow my own curiosity wherever it leads. I am certainly more inclined to read that paper you linked with an open mind than the partisan rage-bait that usually gets paraded across my socials.
Based purely on my own anecdotal experiences, I am definitely surprised by the purported ratio of 11:1, and I am certainly curious how they arrived at that number.
Anybody else see what @jamil did there?When it comes to race, they’re also masters of baiters.
I am not a member of the LGBTQ+ community, and I cannot speak for them as a group or as individuals…can you?
I can only offer my opinion.
I think pedophiles use the cover of LGBTQ tolerance to try to legitimize their abhorrence by proximity and association. I do not think pedophilia is more broadly practiced or accepted in the mainstream LGBTQ community than it is in any other demographic.
Arguing with liberals/progressives is like arguing with Scientologists/Moonies - pointless. They live in their own universe, dictated to them by their handlers. They deny reality, preferring to embrace their fantasy world.
They are also masters of projection, accusing their political opponents of what they themselves embrace. Very sad. But that is how cults function.
So you are claiming the abstract of the paper lies and does not represent the actual contents of the paper? That's rich.
If so this is EXACTLY the flawed liberal logic I addressed upthread. You guys will do anything you can to deny facts that disagree with your feelz. We present a scientific paper disproving your belief, and its just not good enough to sway your preconceived notions.
You are unserious.
Good day, sir.