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  • jamil

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    Did you watch the video?

    Are you prepared to address their actual complaint?

    They are not arguing that LGBTQ is more likely to commit sexual crimes against children, they are arguing that LGBTQ is more likely to be criminally charged than members of the straight community who have committed those same crimes.

    Do they have a point? Who is more likely to get the benefit of the doubt in our society? My mind goes to the drag queen vs youth pastor conversation we had recently here on INGO.

    They make the example of sodomy laws. Many of todays most popular categories of heterosexual pornography center on acts of sodomy, indicating that straight people regularly seek out (and engage in) these acts…however, they make the claim LGBTQ are nine times more likely to be charged with sodomy than are straight people.

    Looking at it from this perspective, I think they have a valid point: It isn’t just what a law says…how a law is implemented must also be considered...selective enforcement is a breeding ground for injustice.

    Well. I guess I wouldn't know the trends in porn, but we're talking about kiddie diddling here. Not sodomy.

    Since you want to go there. Pretty much 100% of gay men engage in sodomy. Why would they not be more likely to be charged with sodomy where it's illegal than straight men? Even if the trend were that straight men increasingly engages in sodomy, I'd wager it's not anywhere near the proportion of gay men who do it. Or Democrats, for that matter. :):

    But again, we're talking about pedophilia, not just gay sex between consenting adults. It's not irrational to think people who push queer theory wouldn't be more likely to be pedophiles. That community can't even bring themselves to call them pedophiles? They have to have a politically correct term like "minor-attracted persons", for **** sake, because they want to be inclusive of child ****ers! Why wouldn't pedo's flock to the community that accepts their behavior?

    One other point in terms of enforcement. No one hates pedos more than conservatives. They'll drop one of their own like a used rubber if they're caught molesting children. Doesn't matter if the pedo were left or right, straight or gay. To the wood chipper for kiddie diddlers. Far left progressives seem far more tolerant approving.
     

    jamil

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    Schrodinger's fetus. It is simultaneously a fully-aware tranny, and not yet a whole person, depending on whether the mother decides to abort or not.
    Lot's of paradoxes like this exists out there on the left fringe of sanity. The fringe is becoming more mainstream on the left, though, as they embrace the folly of inclusivity for fringe ideas, exclusivity of traditional morality. They can't even maintain logical consistency between nutty ideas and they don't believe they have to. Logic is a tool invented by white males to oppress marginalized communities.
     

    Leadeye

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    Do all states have laws on the books covering statutory rape as below the age of 18? It would seem to me that's already existing law that covers this stuff.
     

    LeftyGunner

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    Well. I guess I wouldn't know the trends in porn, but we're talking about kiddie diddling here. Not sodomy.

    Actually, we (the panelists from the video you linked and I) are talking about selective enforcement, but you would seem to prefer to regurgitate right-wing echo-chamber talking points instead.

    Since you want to go there. Pretty much 100% of gay men engage in sodomy. Why would they not be more likely to be charged with sodomy where it's illegal than straight men? Even if the trend were that straight men increasingly engages in sodomy, I'd wager it's not anywhere near the proportion of gay men who do it. Or Democrats, for that matter.

    Lol…I’ll take the wager.

    For this to make any sense the gay population (some 7% of the total population) would have to commit 900% more sodomy than the combined straight population.

    if you think this is true you really need to get out more.

    But again, we're talking about pedophilia, not just gay sex between consenting adults. It's not irrational to think people who push queer theory wouldn't be more likely to be pedophiles. That community can't even bring themselves to call them pedophiles? They have to have a politically correct term like "minor-attracted persons", for **** sake, because they want to be inclusive of child ****ers! Why wouldn't pedo's flock to the community that accepts their behavior?

    Minor attracted persons is not a leftist term, it is pedophiles trying to rebrand themselves.

    Are you familiar with Lolicon hentai?

    What do you think the rates of consumption are between lgbt and strait consumers of loli?


    One other point in terms of enforcement. No one hates pedos more than conservatives.

    Hogwash.

    Do you actually believe this ****?

    FLDS (a group as politically conservative as they come) practices “spiritual marriage” as young as 10…or do you think it was LGBTQ that fought against raising the age of consent in Utah for 100 years?

    …and people accuse me of sticking my head in the sand, LOL.

    They'll drop one of their own like a used rubber if they're caught molesting children.

    Trump is sexually attracted to his own children. He has made sexual comments to about Ivanka and Tiffany, on record, when they were both pre-pubescent children.

    Your point is absolute ********…open your damned eyes.

    Doesn't matter if the pedo were left or right, straight or gay. To the wood chipper for kiddie diddlers. Far left progressives seem far more tolerant approving.

    Oh, please…Matt Gaetz anyone?

    The identitarian left views tolerance as a virtue, when taken to the extreme this is a simple cudgel to use against them.

    Pedophiles operate in all areas of our society, including exclusively conservative ones… all this angst from conservatives about pedophia would be a LOT more credible if there weren’t so many kiddie diddling conservatives.
     

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    You are pathetic. Like every left leaning media outlet or pundit you skew the question to tailor the answer you want. Hypothetical question: if I could have a thanos moment and could snap my fingers and instantly burn alive all the pediphiles in America. Which population would suffer the greatest loss in percentage of population ? The lgtblmnop lefties or heterosexuals? I think we all know the answer given the facts of the matter of who we want living next door to our families and children. The only needle you have moved is with people who suspect you are a disingenuous wingnut and those who know you are.
     

    jamil

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    For this to make any sense the gay population (some 7% of the total population) would have to commit 900% more sodomy than the combined straight population.
    Not so clever bait-n-switch you did there.

    What percentage of the gay population engages in sodomy and what percentage of straight people do? And what are the proportions who get caught, and how open are they about it that might tend to get them charged and prosecuted?

    How many straight people were caught and released vs LGBTQ people? If there were a disparity in proportion to LGBTQ, how much can you rationally attribute to bigotry? I think far less than you likely do. They own all the institutions for **** sake.

    And. Again. We’re talking about pedos. That sexual deviants would tend to be prosecuted more for deviant sex crimes in general says more about their tendencies than it does about discrimination against them just because they’re LGBTQ. I suppose you believe in anti-LGBTQ traffic signs too?
     

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    Actually, we (the panelists from the video you linked and I) are talking about selective enforcement, but you would seem to prefer to regurgitate right-wing echo-chamber talking points instead.



    Lol…I’ll take the wager.

    For this to make any sense the gay population (some 7% of the total population) would have to commit 900% more sodomy than the combined straight population.

    if you think this is true you really need to get out more.



    Minor attracted persons is not a leftist term, it is pedophiles trying to rebrand themselves.

    Are you familiar with Lolicon hentai?

    What do you think the rates of consumption are between lgbt and strait consumers of loli?




    Hogwash.

    Do you actually believe this ****?

    FLDS (a group as politically conservative as they come) practices “spiritual marriage” as young as 10…or do you think it was LGBTQ that fought against raising the age of consent in Utah for 100 years?

    …and people accuse me of sticking my head in the sand, LOL.



    Trump is sexually attracted to his own children. He has made sexual comments to about Ivanka and Tiffany, on record, when they were both pre-pubescent children.

    Your point is absolute ********…open your damned eyes.



    Oh, please…Matt Gaetz anyone?

    The identitarian left views tolerance as a virtue, when taken to the extreme this is a simple cudgel to use against them.

    Pedophiles operate in all areas of our society, including exclusively conservative ones… all this angst from conservatives about pedophia would be a LOT more credible if there weren’t so many kiddie diddling conservatives.
    Who is this child and what is he doing on a mens forum?
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    LeftyGunner

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    Not so clever bait-n-switch you did there.

    Almost as good as your ability to cherry pick what to reply to.


    What percentage of the gay population engages in sodomy and what percentage of straight people do? And what are the proportions who get caught, and how open are they about it that might tend to get them charged and prosecuted?

    How many straight people were caught and released vs LGBTQ people? If there were a disparity in proportion to LGBTQ, how much can you rationally attribute to bigotry? I think far less than you likely do. They own all the institutions for **** sake.

    Let’s both be honest here: I don’t know the answer…but neither do you.


    And. Again. We’re talking about pedos.

    Well, I certainly am…you are just ignoring all the pedos on your side.


    That sexual deviants would tend to be prosecuted more for deviant sex crimes in general says more about their tendencies than it does about discrimination against them just because they’re LGBTQ.

    Wow, your evidentiary standards are as flexible as right-wing ethics…that’s pretty impressive.

    When accusations are enough for you to condemn your political enemies, but criminal convictions are not enough to condemn your own political allies you might want to reconsider the sincerity of your positions.

    I suppose you believe in anti-LGBTQ traffic signs too?

    What on Earth are you talking about?
     

    Ingomike

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    Almost as good as your ability to cherry pick what to reply to.




    Let’s both be honest here: I don’t know the answer…but neither do you.




    Well, I certainly am…you are just ignoring all the pedos on your side.




    Wow, your evidentiary standards are as flexible as right-wing ethics…that’s pretty impressive.

    When accusations are enough for you to condemn your political enemies, but criminal convictions are not enough to condemn your own political allies you might want to reconsider the sincerity of your positions.



    What on Earth are you talking about?
    We know who the left is, they told us. We believe them, why don’t you believe them? Why do you cover for them. I do really appreciate your posts. They help me understand what is in the mind of those that allow the implementation of clownworld while still thinking they are good people…
     

    LeftyGunner

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    We know who the left is, they told us. We believe them, why don’t you believe them? Why do you cover for them. I do really appreciate your posts. They help me understand what is in the mind of those that allow the implementation of clownworld while still thinking they are good people…

    Look in the mirror, Mike.

    You are gleefully voting for a pedophile this November.
     

    Ingomike

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    Look in the mirror, Mike.

    You are gleefully voting for a pedophile this November.
    You have absolutely no evidence of that. You really are so eaten up with leftism and TDS that you cannot think that if there was even a shred of proof, those that have spent most if a decade going after Trump with a fine tooth comb, they would have pinned it in him?

    Top level DOJ employees quitting to take a lowly assistant DA position to get Trump on charges the DOJ and FEC declined to prosecute but they could’ve nailed him anytime on a pedo charge.

    BULLS**T!
     

    LeftyGunner

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    You have absolutely no evidence of that. You really are so eaten up with leftism and TDS that you cannot think that if there was even a shred of proof, those that have spent most if a decade going after Trump with a fine tooth comb, they would have pinned it in him?

    Top level DOJ employees quitting to take a lowly assistant DA position to get Trump on charges the DOJ and FEC declined to prosecute but they could’ve nailed him anytime on a pedo charge.

    BULLS**T!

    Q: How many current presidential candidates are on record saying “I’ve known Jeff (Epstein) for fifteen years. Terrific guy,”

    A: Only one…yours.
     

    d.kaufman

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    Q: How many current presidential candidates are on record saying “I’ve known Jeff (Epstein) for fifteen years. Terrific guy,”

    A: Only one…yours.
    He was friends with him at 1 point but once he found out Epstein liked them underage he didn't have anything to do with him. Even kicked him out of his hotel

     
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