Go It Alone United Kingdom!

[HubertGummer]

Umm...the UK is a "socialist" nation and has been for decades. No more so or less than many of the their European comrades.

I never said the UK weren't socialists. My point was that they wouldn't do anything different if they left the EU because of the fact that they are.

 

[Twangbanger]

I really think a key issue behind the closeness of this Brexit vote, just like the Trump primary here in America, is immigration. The British people see what Angela Merkel has done to Germany, they fear the possibility that kind of leader may someday come to power in Britain, and it worries them.

I thought the whole point of the EU was that it was to be for the mutual protection of Europe against the rest of the world. But at least for purposes of immigration, it seems to have turned out the opposite. I liken it to a group of college girls going to a party to get drunk, and they make a pact to keep an eye on each other and if they see some guy trying to put the lumber to one of them, they agree to step in and stop it. But with this Schengen business, that agreement is turned inside out and it's like, if one of the girls has sex with a guy - now they all have to agree have sex with him. If muslim refugees can walk, crawl, or float to the border of the weakest EU nation, they now have what amounts to passport-free passage to (almost) every other country in the zone.

I've heard it said that Germany will be the loser if Britain opts out. Well, if it happens, I hope Angela Merkel takes a good hard look in the mirror. Barack Obama has created the most right-wing government in Israel in my lifetime, with his Iran nuclear deal. And it's even-odds at this point that Merkel may come to be seen as having played a similar role in Brexit, with her Theological Utopian position on refugees.

 

[Sylvain]

I really think a key issue behind the closeness of this Brexit vote, just like the Trump primary here in America, is immigration. The British people see what Angela Merkel has done to Germany, they fear the possibility that kind of leader may someday come to power in Britain, and it worries them.

I thought the whole point of the EU was that it was to be for the mutual protection of Europe against the rest of the world. But at least for purposes of immigration, it seems to have turned out the opposite. I liken it to a group of college girls going to a party to get drunk, and they make a pact to keep an eye on each other and if they see some guy trying to put the lumber to one of them, they agree to step in and stop it. But with this Schengen business, that agreement is turned inside out and it's like, if one of the girls has sex with a guy - now they all have to agree have sex with him. If muslim refugees can walk, crawl, or float to the border of the weakest EU nation, they now have what amounts to passport-free passage to (almost) every other country in the zone.

I've heard it said that Germany will be the loser if Britain opts out. Well, if it happens, I hope Angela Merkel takes a good hard look in the mirror. Barack Obama has created the most right-wing government in Israel in my lifetime, with his Iran nuclear deal. And it's even-odds at this point that Merkel may come to be seen as having played a similar role in Brexit, with her Theological Utopian position on refugees.

So the Muslim refugees are a threat to Europe, but not the Christian refugees or atheists refugees right?
Looks like your problem is with Muslims, not refugees.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

So the Muslim refugees are a threat to Europe, but not the Christian refugees or atheists refugees right?
Looks like your problem is with Muslims, not refugees.

Are there that many Christians left in Europe? I mean practicing Christians?

 

[Expat]

So the Muslim refugees are a threat to Europe, but not the Christian refugees or atheists refugees right?
Looks like your problem is with Muslims, not refugees.

Just curious. Have there been problems with Christian refugees in Europe similar to the Rotherham child sexual abuse scandal or the mass sexual abuse of females in Cologne?

 

[jamil]

Just curious. Have there been problems with Christian refugees in Europe similar to the Rotherham child sexual abuse scandal or the mass sexual abuse of females in Cologne?

I was going to ask the same, but in a different way. Do the Christian and Atheist refugees really cause as much trouble? I'm not suggesting these countries must screen refugees by religion. However, if a significant portion of refugees from a given country commit crimes in the host country, it's fair to say, no more. If a population of refugees can't assimilate into the host country's society, it's fair not to take them in.

Leaders of nations have a larger responsibility towards their own citizens. But the leaders of these countries seem to be acting with an insane manifest destiny with the Syrian refugees. At this point bringing stability to Syria so that there aren't any refugees, should be the highest priority. That would be the best outcome for everyone.

 

[printcraft]

I was going to ask the same, but in a different way. Do the Christian and Atheist refugees really cause as much trouble? I'm not suggesting these countries must screen refugees by religion. However, if a significant portion of refugees from a given country commit crimes in the host country, it's fair to say, no more. If a population of refugees can't assimilate into the host country's society, it's fair not to take them in.

Leaders of nations have a larger responsibility towards their own citizens. But the leaders of these countries seem to be acting with an insane manifest destiny with the Syrian refugees. At this point bringing stability to Syria so that there aren't any refugees, should be the highest priority. That would be the best outcome for everyone.

[video=youtube;g8IVI0sZ6F8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8IVI0sZ6F8[/video]


Syrian refugees admitted to U.S. spike - CNNPolitics.com

 

[Twangbanger]

...
Looks like your problem is with Muslims, not refugees.

First of all, "I" am not the one voting for Brexit; that would be your neighbors across the channel.

Second, it' not "Muslims," nor "refugees." It's "Muslim refugees," hundreds of thousands of them to be more specific.

Since they are not all from Syria (nor even the Middle East), what term would you use to accurately and crisply describe them as a group?

 

[GIJEW]

Barack Obama has created the most right-wing government in Israel in my lifetime, with his Iran nuclear deal.

Like many things that obama does like to take credit for, this too, is none of his doing. The drift right in Israeli politics started over a generation ago. However obama DID create some consensus between the Israeli right and left, over his iranian nuke deal. He even managed to create a working relationship between Israel and the saudis!

 

[printcraft]

First of all, "I" am not the one voting for Brexit; that would be your neighbors across the channel.

Second, it' not "Muslims," nor "refugees." It's "Muslim refugees," hundreds of thousands of them to be more specific.

Since they are not all from Syria (nor even the Middle East), what term would you use to accurately and crisply describe them as a group?

Settlers.

Go west young muhammad!

Suicide wagons may or may not be included. YDMV.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Go west young muhammad!

They did already.

During another 9/11:

 

[pudly]

Brexit has opened up at 19pt lead in a recent poll.

Leave camp take 19-POINT lead as Britons flock to Brexit | Politics | News | Daily Express

 

[T.Lex]

So then this happened.

German government bond yields go negative for first time - BBC News

Basically, people who by German 10-year bonds are figuring that they'll lose less money in those (they are "safer") than other investments.

Fears about the global economy and a possible UK departure from the EU have prompted investors to pay to own "Bunds"
...
Investors are betting sterling will fall, regardless of the outcome of the 23 June vote, with millions placed in the derivatives market, where traders can speculate in the future price of currencies.

James Ruddiman, director at currency broker Audere Solutions, said: "Expect some wild swings in the coming days, with $1.40 the next level to watch. I would expect greater degree of panic if the 'leave' margin widens in the coming days.

 

[pudly]

So then this happened.

German government bond yields go negative for first time - BBC News

Basically, people who by German 10-year bonds are figuring that they'll lose less money in those (they are "safer") than other investments.

Might be news for Germany, but this has been happening in a lot of countries- Switzerland, Japan, etc. 25% of all govt. bonds now pay negative interest rates.

 

[miguel]

England for the English!

 

[pudly]

 

[Kirk Freeman]

England for the English!

I have to go back to Devon now?

 

[indiucky]

I have to go back to Devon now?

Yes...In a leaky boat, filled with puritans....

 

[T.Lex]

Yes...In a leaky boat, filled with puritans....

Beggin' yer pardon, sah, I thought you said "boat filled with libertarians"....

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Yes...In a leaky boat, filled with puritans....

No Puritans in North Carolina, just losers at the Battle of Worcester.

Fell flat on our faces under the Earl of Cleveland's last charge, so we lit out for the colonies.