Glenn Beck's Fox Show Dropped

[Expat]

That is the WEAKEST argument I have ever heard in my life. Really really weak.

I have used the term "Hanging by a thread" at least once in the last week, does that mean I am trying to fulfill a Mormon Prophecy?

garbage. Basing an entire article on a phrase that is in common use? blah.

It might possibly be true, but to base it on a turn of phrase......

And I wasn't implying that I was making that case. Just something I heard for the first time and thought others might be interested in.

 

[level.eleven]

I had not heard about this until today from someone.

Is Glenn Beck Attempting to Fulfill the Mormon 'White Horse Prophecy'?
http://mrm.org/white-horse-prophecy

Mitt wears magic undies too.

 

[dom1104]

Mitt wears magic undies too.

Good point. I forgot about that.

Mormon Invasion.

 

[Bummer]

Bummer:

Thanks. I have not to this date had anyone refute anything that i have read from Mr Beck other then the insults/cut-downs/inflammatory statements he says. I mean Beck could probably get to more people by being less of an A%$HOLE but ... that is who he is and ... it makes me laugh...

sorry ... back to Bummer... I have not seen all of Beck programs and I am working all the time (For myself) so i can't really listen to his radio program, but i don't remember any of the things you have sited as something he has said. Are all of these refutations in this book you want me to read?

Hi Matt,

I don't have time to watch TV. I certainly don't waste my time with people like Beck and his ilk. It just happens that the issue of "Christian Nation" came up elsewhere, some while back.

I did some research based upon suggestions made by others, and found Ms. Rodda's web site. I read the partial chapters she displays and was impressed with the depth of her research. They quote sentences. She quotes pages with the sentences in the middle. I compared her quotes to copies of originals I could find from other sources. She didn't change a word. I bought her book and read it. She whups 'em, and whups 'em hard. I'm currently somewhat impatiently waiting on Volume II. As I wait I check her site occasionally.

Recently I learned of Mr. Beck's TV lectures and saw her refutations, many of which are fully documented in Volume I. I noted that Mr. Beck has dragged out David Barton, calling him "Professor". (Barton isn't a professor. He wrote a couple of "history" books full of false and misleading information that are commonly used by home schoolers.) Mr. Barton is one of the primary "Liars For Jesus" quoted and soundly refuted in Ms. Rodda's book.

The fact that Beck is touting this rubbish places him squarely alongside Limbaugh as a bombastic entertainer shucking the gullible. They do nothing but dumb-down well intentioned people. Our society doesn't really need that. The Bell Curve is a big enough problem already. (Ever seen the movie Idiocracy?)

If you're interested, check out her book, Liars For Jesus, on Amazon. If you are so inclined you can post refutations of her points there. She will then respond. I suggest you actually do the homework before telling her she's wrong. Nobody's persevered against her yet. No yelling. No insults. (From her.) Just verifiable history.

I also recommend The Great Rehearsal by Carl VanDoren. It's long out of print, but you might be able to find a copy at the library. It is taken from the diaries, notes, and letters of the men we commonly call "The Founders". It begins with Washington, in uniform, showing up just outside of Philadelphia, and ends when Rhode Island gives in and signs on after having been blockaded for refusing to join the new nation. A little bit dry, but an excellent source of historical information.

 

[awatarius]

Hi Matt,

I don't have time to watch TV. I certainly don't waste my time with people like Beck and his ilk. It just happens that the issue of "Christian Nation" came up elsewhere, some while back.

I did some research based upon suggestions made by others, and found Ms. Rodda's web site. I read the partial chapters she displays and was impressed with the depth of her research. They quote sentences. She quotes pages with the sentences in the middle. I compared her quotes to copies of originals I could find from other sources. She didn't change a word. I bought her book and read it. She whups 'em, and whups 'em hard. I'm currently somewhat impatiently waiting on Volume II. As I wait I check her site occasionally.

Recently I learned of Mr. Beck's TV lectures and saw her refutations, many of which are fully documented in Volume I. I noted that Mr. Beck has dragged out David Barton, calling him "Professor". (Barton isn't a professor. He wrote a couple of "history" books full of false and misleading information that are commonly used by home schoolers.) Mr. Barton is one of the primary "Liars For Jesus" quoted and soundly refuted in Ms. Rodda's book.

The fact that Beck is touting this rubbish places him squarely alongside Limbaugh as a bombastic entertainer shucking the gullible. They do nothing but dumb-down well intentioned people. Our society doesn't really need that. The Bell Curve is a big enough problem already. (Ever seen the movie Idiocracy?)

If you're interested, check out her book, Liars For Jesus, on Amazon. If you are so inclined you can post refutations of her points there. She will then respond. I suggest you actually do the homework before telling her she's wrong. Nobody's persevered against her yet. No yelling. No insults. (From her.) Just verifiable history.

I also recommend The Great Rehearsal by Carl VanDoren. It's long out of print, but you might be able to find a copy at the library. It is taken from the diaries, notes, and letters of the men we commonly call "The Founders". It begins with Washington, in uniform, showing up just outside of Philadelphia, and ends when Rhode Island gives in and signs on after having been blockaded for refusing to join the new nation. A little bit dry, but an excellent source of historical information.

Hello,

Ahh I love a nice toasty glass of truth. GB was nothing but a sensationalist. He did lie... a lot. Or if he didn't lie he supported people who did. He stirred up passions to make money, and he was very good at that. His ranting about conspiracies, moral law, and conversations about gays eroding America.. Stupid inane BS. I recommend everyone check this out. I don't always like this fellow but this WAS EPIC Conservative Libertarian - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - 03/18/10 - Video Clip | Comedy Central

Thanks,
Matthew

 

[flightsimmer]

I remember a man who tried to warn the world ............they crusified him. He thought you were worth it............are you?

 

[MattYagPD01]

Will do. thanks bummer, I appreciate it.

To the John Stewart show.... that is ... at it's core entertainment... How can you pull anything from him and call it fact? ok ... ok.... maybe once in a while... he just isn't a credible source unless it is on Comedy Central.

M

 

[BumpShadow]

I don't know enough about alot of what Beck has said to say anything good or bad about his character. Truthfully I'd probably never watch him watch him if not for the fact that his comes again at 2am, and I'm stuck at work with nothening better on tv. There's alot of color and motion, so it keeps me awake.

That aside, the nail in the coffen was his caliphate non-sense. When Saudi Arabias' "Day of Rage" fell though, it basically sealed the fake of his show. Only the slums of the Middle East are "Burning", and couldn't form a caliphate if life itself depended on it. The leaders of many of this "caliphate member states" would all want to be on top, and would rip each other to shreds to get there, destroying the caliphate in the process.

The countries in the Middle East with money are very happy, and only complain about stuff that people who have everything they need and most of what they want complain about. Saudi Arabia has free education through college for petes' sake.

In truth, the only reason such empires existed at all was because the flow of information was so slow and bottle necked that a single chaismatic person us able to rally ALOT of troops before anyone else could stop them. Not possible in today's world save for one man. Which brings me to another point.

Mr. Beck cited on a-number of times about the 12th imam was simliar to the anti-christ, and that Iran "knew" he was coming soon. Laying aside the fact that the man on the white horse of the 4 horsemen in revalation was never said to be called "The Anti-Christ", it states that none shall now the day, month, or hour. So if the 12th Imam is in fact the "Anti-Christ", how can anyone in Iran know he will come soon? One could angrue that the Bible doesn't say we shall not now the year, but no-one has predicted the right year yet I would say it would be a safe bet that if anyone did get it right, it would luck, not providence.

Whats going on in Iran is little more than panpering to the troops to gin up support for the goverment and to try and get the people of Iran to stop blaming the goverment for Iran's crappy economy.

 

[Bummer]

I remember a man who tried to warn the world ............they crusified him. He thought you were worth it............are you?

Ok, so you're saying that John Stewart is going to be crucified for warning us about Glenn Beck?

I am not worthy.

Ok, who's got the purple pen?

 

[awatarius]

Ok, so you're saying that John Stewart is going to be crucified for warning us about Glenn Beck?

I am not worthy.

Ok, who's got the purple pen?

LOL no I think he was saying Glenn Beck was like the man who who died for us...

LOL

 

[awatarius]

Will do. thanks bummer, I appreciate it.

To the John Stewart show.... that is ... at it's core entertainment... How can you pull anything from him and call it fact? ok ... ok.... maybe once in a while... he just isn't a credible source unless it is on Comedy Central.

M

Oh I didn't! He is comedy at best, but I rarely laugh like I did when I watched his parody of Mr. Beck. He had another brand new one I have not seen yet about this very subject! Can't wait.

Thanks,
Matthew

 

[sgreen3]

Fox news and MSNBC are pretty much the same. In the way there both bias to there party affiliation. There only going to broadcast what makes them look better. You can put a spin on anything to make it look like something its not. Glenn Beck is just one of a long line, trying to get as many people he can to conform his way of thinking ( all be it that he can be pretty convincing at times) but thats for the listener to decide!

 

[flagtag]

Fox news and MSNBC are pretty much the same. In the way there both bias to there party affiliation. There only going to broadcast what makes them look better. You can put a spin on anything to make it look like something its not. Glenn Beck is just one of a long line, trying to get as many people he can to conform his way of thinking ( all be it that he can be pretty convincing at times) but thats for the listener to decide!

Have you considered that people listen/watch him because HE speaks to the way OTHERS think and that is what draws them to him? (In other words, people have (and use) their own minds and are drawn to those that think like they do, and are not necessarily "converted" to Beck's way of thinking?)

 

[Bummer]

I haven't seen Beck's series you're talking about but I think you might be interested in this. It's a series put on by a guy from the Kokomo area named Peter Heck. He has his own radio show and is a school teacher in Greentown.

Peter Heck - Speaker - AFOF

I went back and checked out some of Heck's videos. He lost badly on the Goo to Zoo to You video. Heavy on strawman arguments with a profound ignorance of the science. Or he intends to deceive. Then there's his Freedom's Best Friend video. He appears to be using the same technique that Barton uses: quotemining without the full source. Not a good sign.

I will not be paying to view his opinions.

 

[sgreen3]

Have you considered that people listen/watch him because HE speaks to the way OTHERS think and that is what draws them to him? (In other words, people have (and use) their own minds and are drawn to those that think like they do, and are not necessarily "converted" to Beck's way of thinking?)

Thats why you do your homework and make a sound desicion as to what you choose to belive. He does have good points not disputing that, Im not for or aginst him. Thats the great thing about america free speech. I will say one thing if it truely is because he made people mad because of his views and he looses his show, That is wrong and its a shame.

 

[flagtag]

Thats why you do your homework and make a sound desicion as to what you choose to belive. He does have good points not disputing that, Im not for or aginst him. Thats the great thing about america free speech. I will say one thing if it truely is because he made people mad because of his views and he looses his show, That is wrong and its a shame.

At least Beck gives enough information so that people CAN check out what he says - and shows videos of the people he quotes so that people can see/hear the scumbags in their own words.

How many other TV programs/stations do that? No, they tell you what THEY want you to hear and act like that is the only information available. That is why I turned away from networks that I used to watch. I just felt that there was something missing from their reporting - or that something was "wrong" with what they were telling us.

True, there are things that he says that I don't agree with, but I focus on the meaningful information that he - and his staff - passes on.

 

[sgreen3]

At least Beck gives enough information so that people CAN check out what he says(agreed) - and shows videos of the people he quotes so that people can see/hear the scumbags in their own words.

How many other TV programs/stations do that? No, they tell you what THEY want you to hear and act like that is the only information available. That is why I turned away from networks that I used to watch. I just felt that there was something missing from their reporting - or that something was "wrong" with what they were telling us. (agreed)

True, there are things that he says that I don't agree with, but I focus on the meaningful information that he - and his staff - passes on.

Its hard to watch some of the stuff they broadcast, makes ya wonder if they really belive themselves what they are saying. But I agree I dont watch as much as I used to either.

 

[flagtag]

Its hard to watch some of the stuff they broadcast, makes ya wonder if they really belive themselves what they are saying. But I agree I dont watch as much as I used to either.

I believe that most, if not all of them, do believe what they say.

I am old enough to remember the Weather Underground and the news reports of that time about the killings and bombings. (Not everyone "mellows out" as they age. Many just "hate" more.)

 

[Hoosier8]

Soros has nothing to do with this. This is strictly between Fox and Beck. Beck's cost them money and his ratings are dropping. That's the kiss of death in television. Especially, the money part. Add into that that he's done nothing to help Fox's reputation with his kookery and it's a ticket to splitsville.

Fox disagrees. The advertisers just went to other shows "with FOX".

Due to Becks popularity, he is a millionaire. He will produce other shows with FOX.

You may think Beck is a kook, but now that Soros is sponsoring a "change the news" symposium, it rings closer to home.

 

[DragonGunner]

I like Beck...an I know even if he was right 100% of the time there would still be people that would hate his guts an want to get rid of him. I have no doubt he loves God, loves America, loves the Constitution...that he hates Socialism, Communism, an the mad rush to inslave our country to outside interests....which is why so many hate him, an why i stopped watching CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN......good luck to the man where ever he goes an does.