Getting tired...

[Shadow8088]

As it stands right now, FFLs are allowed to charge a "reasonable" fee... I don't know who gets to decide what reasonable is, but $25-$40 for a 3 minute phonecall is higher than I'm willing to pay, but then again, I'm not selling any firearms, so it doesn't apply to me at this point in time.

This is what I said chum. The price of a FFL NICS check for the private sale between two parties is what I was talking about, and how I'm not selling any guns and it doesn't apply to me.. perhaps I should clarify, i don't have to pay said fee because i'm not selling a gun... better? Not everything in what you're quoting was directed towards you, and your condescending tone on the last part was laughable.

by the way, most criminals get their firearms through burglaries and unsecured weapons...

 

[Steelman]

Since you have taken the time to address my post...I think we all have a common interest here that transcends party labels.........even firearm ownership.......and that is being free.

We ask for the lives of young people in defense of ...freedoms?

I sure as hell don't feel free. Are you free?

Yes both parties are corrupt no doubt. Any thinking person can see that.

That is why I am no longer a Republican. There a is fairly large group on here that will attack viciously if you say something in support of the Republican party. So be it. Labels exist for a reason, they don't drop out of the sky for no reason. I don't want to be associated with Republicans even though a lot of my views are for the most part conservative. But that is enough to be accused of being a closet Republican by some very warped minds on here. So be it. I have even been accused of voting Republican blindly even though I didn't as if some have magic power to see how I voted. Now Im just rambling...

Point is if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it just might be a closet Republican. Life is too short to walk around with butt hurt constantly.



And Shadow8088 it does happen on this forum, so don't feel pregnant pal.

 

[Socomike]

OK shadow8088 you have made your statements and shared your concerns. It is obvious that you are mostly alone (on this website) in your thinking that there are acceptable gun laws and restrictions (to include magazine capacity limits).

Further arguement of these facts makes you look more and more like a troll.

We get it. You like your guns. You like your magazines. You arent selling them so you dont care about a universal background check (apparently you dont plan to buy one on the private market either because those "reasonable" fees become an issue then).

You could give a **** less if my kid can buy a 30 round magazine in 15 years when he is old enough to appreciate it. You could give a **** less if one of your fellow gun lovers would like to replace old worn out 30 round magazines with new servicable ones.

We get it. You have identified yourself as the main problem with the firearms enthusiest culture. A "gun lover" who is ok with packing the snow ball and rolling it down the hill. You cannot see the potential for that snowball becoming an avalanche.

Kindly go away.

 

[gunowner930]

This is what I said chum. The price of a FFL NICS check for the private sale between two parties is what I was talking about, and how I'm not selling any guns and it doesn't apply to me.. perhaps I should clarify, i don't have to pay said fee because i'm not selling a gun... better? Not everything in what you're quoting was directed towards you, and your condescending tone on the last part was laughable.

by the way, most criminals get their firearms through burglaries and unsecured weapons...

I think you've had a few posts that were condescending as well. That said, this is only an internet debate. I'll try to keep to condescendingness (I know, that is not a word) of my posts down. Gun ownership tends to be a urban/rural issue. Democrats generally dominate urban areas, whereas Republicans generally dominate rural areas. Therefore, Democrats tend to be more hostile to gun ownership than Republicans. Since this is a forum that is largely dedicated to firearms, when the issue 2nd Amendment rights is brought up, then yes, many posters have more hostile reactions towards Democrats. I'm sorry if that response seems too simplistic, but if you already knew that then you already knew the answer to your OP before you ever posted it.

Are there Democrats who are pro-2nd Amendment? Absolutely, but King Barack the Magnificent is not one of them. And I simply cannot understand how one who values gun rights casts a vote for him.

 

[TopDog]

Since you have taken the time to address my post...I think we all have a common interest here that transcends party labels.........even firearm ownership.......and that is being free.

We ask for the lives of young people in defense of ...freedoms?

I sure as hell don't feel free. Are you free?

Am I free? Good question, if you had asked me that 25 years ago I would have answered without hesitation, yes. But now as our government becomes more invasive, most socialist. I got to shake my head and answer pretty much the same as you, I sure as hell don't feel very free.

 

[Steelman]

Am I free? Good question, if you had asked me that 25 years ago I would have answered without hesitation, yes. But now as our government becomes more invasive, most socialist. I got to shake my head and answer pretty much the same as you, I sure as hell don't feel very free.

Anyone else feeling particularly Free on this January Eve?

 

[IndyDave1776]

Anyone else feeling particularly Free on this January Eve?

In 1960, when I came out of prison as an ex-convict, I had more freedom under parolee supervision than there's available ... in America right now.

--MERLE HAGGARD

 

[No2rdame]

Here is where UBC become a bad idea. First, when should they not apply? If a father wants to hand down his gun to his kids, should a background check be required? What if a woman wants a gun for protection and a son or daughter wants to gift her one? Second, the slippery slope is simple - by having information run on every single gun transaction in this country, the government will easily be able to construct a database to track all gun activity for legal purchases. In other words, a secretive form of a mandatory gun registration. And if you think our government wouldn't do such things, just take a look at our history.

In any of the aforementioned cases how will these actions prevent criminals from committing crimes or murders with guns? All this would do would be to restrict law abiding citizens.

 

[Wysko]

Your liberals in public office have a history of pushing anti gun laws and are currently trying to ban our semi autos and mags. The most oppresive anti gun states in the U.S. are the liberal states. If Obama had the opportunity to ban our firearms in his first two years in office, a time when the Democrats held a super majority in the House and Senate, it would be all over for us now. If you vote for anti gun politicians dont feel hurt when fellow gun owners call you on it. Sorta like going to a Union Hall meeting and telling fellow Union workers why you are voting for 'right to work' Republicans. Get it??

 

[Signal23]

Liberal means killing a baby in a abortion is ok by the millions, but kids killed by a nut job means we All lose the rights we have had for 200 years.
If I don't like something, I don't care if you love it or hate it, if a liberal doesn't like something NOBODY can enjoy it, they put a warning labor on it , tax it, and sue your enjoyment out of it.
Union are a scam for the politicians to pay to fatten up the union bosses with tax payer money who in turn give a % background to the politician, to keep the scam running.
Union teachers , if they had to get a job and earn pay based on real world success or failure like any other job, they would be fired, but they aren't , you can't fire a teacher that sucks, they go on strike for more pay.look at hostess cake and detroit, unions priced themselves out of work and now 1000's have no job.
What about butter/margerine, paper vs plastic, drilling vs. Ethonal, solar vs everthing that works.
Liberals SUCK AT everything they try to "correct " or "make fair"
I hate participation trophies , skinny jeans, a people that on there own can't make a single point without blaming someone that has worked harder and has been successful .
Liberal Democrats are the party of unintended consequence they NEVER THINK things through.
We are in the middle of a failed presidentcy, just WAIT, for your unintended consequences.

 

[silverspoon]

I think we are going to need every single gun owner, whether it be conservative or liberal, to win the fight that's ahead of us. We all need to be embracing every single gun owner and enlisting their help in this.

 

[Steelman]

This is very hard to read, but it appears to be more noise than signal.

Liberal means killing a baby in a abortion is ok by the millions, but kids killed by a nut job means we All lose the rights we have had for 200 years.
If I don't like something, I don't care if you love it or hate it, if a liberal doesn't like something NOBODY can enjoy it, they put a warning labor on it , tax it, and sue your enjoyment out of it.
Union are a scam for the politicians to pay to fatten up the union bosses with tax payer money who in turn give a % background to the politician, to keep the scam running.
Union teachers , if they had to get a job and earn pay based on real world success or failure like any other job, they would be fired, but they aren't , you can't fire a teacher that sucks, they go on strike for more pay.look at hostess cake and detroit, unions priced themselves out of work and now 1000's have no job.
What about butter/margerine, paper vs plastic, drilling vs. Ethonal, solar vs everthing that works.
Liberals SUCK AT everything they try to "correct " or "make fair"
I hate participation trophies , skinny jeans, a people that on there own can't make a single point without blaming someone that has worked harder and has been successful .
Liberal Democrats are the party of unintended consequence they NEVER THINK things through.
We are in the middle of a failed presidentcy, just WAIT, for your unintended consequences.

 

[Birds Away]

I think we are going to need every single gun owner, whether it be conservative or liberal, to win the fight that's ahead of us. We all need to be embracing every single gun owner and enlisting their help in this.

Gun owners who willingly accept further infringement are of no use to us. They only weaken our cause.

If you voted for this president then you:

Are aghast at the loss of innocent life at Sandy Hook but think it's just dandy that over a million babies are killed in this country every year.

Believe that those who work for a living must support those who choose not to.

Believe that the government can continue to print money indefinitely and nothing bad will happen.

Believe it is much more important for us to continue to aid the Islamic revolutions happening throughout the world then to support our friends in Israel.

You also believe in "gun free zones" for the safety of our children.

The United States was founded on the principle of everyone having the same "opportunity" to get as far as their natural abilities and work ethic would take them. There were no safety nets for the lazy and worthless. If you are a liberal than, in my opinion, you stand four square against all of the principles this country was founded on.

 

[Steelman]

Please explain how Dubya or Mittens would have differed?

Both, at the very least, stated a willingness to sign an assault weapons ban.

The time for partisan politics is behind us. If you wish to cling to your dead Party and frolic in the ashes - no one can stop you.

Gun owners who willingly accept further infringement are of no use to us. They only weaken our cause.

If you voted for this president then you:

Are aghast at the loss of innocent life at Sandy Hook but think it's just dandy that over a million babies are killed in this country every year.

Believe that those who work for a living must support those who choose not to.

Believe that the government can continue to print money indefinitely and nothing bad will happen.

Believe it is much more important for us to continue to aid the Islamic revolutions happening throughout the world then to support our friends in Israel.

You also believe in "gun free zones" for the safety of our children.

The United States was founded on the principle of everyone having the same "opportunity" to get as far as their natural abilities and work ethic would take them. There were no safety nets for the lazy and worthless. If you are a liberal than, in my opinion, you stand four square against all of the principles this country was founded on.

 

[HenryWallace]

When you don't understand someone else, it's a lot easier to group them together, even if all the pieces don't fit. Easy answer is that labels are made to segregate. Lumping together people against other people is the true definition and backbone of GENOCIDE.

 

[rcjohnson64]

I might not like or agree with your political views. But, I would die defending your right to have them!

 

[Birds Away]

Please explain how Dubya or Mittens would have differed?

Both, at the very least, stated a willingness to sign an assault weapons ban.

The time for partisan politics is behind us. If you wish to cling to your dead Party and frolic in the ashes - no one can stop you.

I was addressing modern liberal values and how they are inconsistent with the ideals America was founded upon. Where did I say I was a Republican. Oh, right, if you support Israel you have to be a Republican, right? No one is more partisan than a libertarian. They hate everyone, even each other.

 

[Steelman]

We Libertarians are a fickle bunch. Are you not a Republican?

You are also are dismissing gun owners that disagree with your skewed view of the world when we need them most.

Pretty sure the Democrats didn't sink the U.S.S. Liberty. Where the hell are YOUR allegiances???

I was addressing modern liberal values and how they are inconsistent with the ideals America was founded upon. Where did I say I was a Republican. Oh, right, if you support Israel you have to be a Republican, right? No one is more partisan than a libertarian. They hate everyone, even each other.

 

[Bapak2ja]

let me see... Dianne Feinstein got her panties in a bunch about guns period. Some wingnut took semi-auto rifle and gunned down kids which kicked this whole thing off. Considering how much the media ran with the whole "assault weapons" and plastered those kids pictures over the airwaves 24/7, how could you NOT expect a response. Even now, the teeth of the supposed AWB are gone.. they KNOW they won't get the ban through both house and senate. What you're looking at is at most a UBC and magazine limits.. just something to shut the frenzied public up.. and since most of you already OWN mags that hold more than 10 rounds, what are you crying about? Sure, voice your opinions, write your congressmen (I did it through the Ruger site) and protest! by God, I never said you shouldn't. (by the way, you should write down what YOU think liberal means, and then go look it up and be amazed that your definition doesn't match.)

Note the highlighted line. Further note, the "wingnut" DID NOT USE A SEMI-AUTO RIFLE! He left the rifle behind and used the pistols. The "liberals" are going after something that was not even part of the crisis. This demonstrates their real intentions are to disarm the people so they can control them. For this, they have earned every curse thrown at them. Treason by the elected officials is of all thongs most odious.

 

[Bapak2ja]

Gun owners who willingly accept further infringement are of no use to us. They only weaken our cause.

If you voted for this president then you:

Are aghast at the loss of innocent life at Sandy Hook but think it's just dandy that over a million babies are killed in this country every year.

Believe that those who work for a living must support those who choose not to.

Believe that the government can continue to print money indefinitely and nothing bad will happen.

Believe it is much more important for us to continue to aid the Islamic revolutions happening throughout the world then to support our friends in Israel.

You also believe in "gun free zones" for the safety of our children.

The United States was founded on the principle of everyone having the same "opportunity" to get as far as their natural abilities and work ethic would take them. There were no safety nets for the lazy and worthless. If you are a liberal than, in my opinion, you stand four square against all of the principles this country was founded on.

Well said. Rep inbound.