Four Minneapolis officers fired after death of black man

[printcraft]

2B

 

[Phase2]

New York was having increasing problems due to their no-bail policy implemented earlier this year. After releasing a lot of criminals from jail due to the Wuhan coronavirus, they experienced a lot of recidivism to the mayors surprise and some were getting rearrested and re-released the same day. I was wondering how that was going to impact the ongoing arrests of rioters and looters recently. And now...

Police Chief: Arrested Looters in NYC Are Immediately Released Because of Bail-Reform Law

 

[JettaKnight]

I don't disagree

https://www.unz.com/freed/oncoming-racial-doom-the-clash-of-cultures/

[video=youtube;5AYIcTVizM4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AYIcTVizM4[/video]

 

[nonobaddog]

2B

or ¬ 2B

 

[T.Lex]

That's the question.

 

[two70]

But then again, I keep thinking about my .sig...

That's a fine sentiment when combined with the will to see your enemies defeated first as Lincoln had. Seeking to befriend an enemy that hasn't been defeated yet at best does nothing more than enable the enemy. Such efforts are little more than appeasement.

It must also be noted that the ideas of restraint and compassion that Lincoln espoused didn't work out so well for him personally.

 

[JettaKnight]

That's a fine sentiment when combined with the will to see your enemies defeated first as Lincoln had. Seeking to befriend an enemy that hasn't been defeated yet at best does nothing more than enable the enemy. Such efforts are little more than appeasement.

Oh, I dunno., seems to be working for Daryl Davis.

[video=youtube;V7fh5J_mo5E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7fh5J_mo5E[/video]
That video came out after Ferguson, and it's still quite relevant.
Spoiler: The BLM folks he talks to are more intransigent than the KKK members.

It must also be noted that the ideas of restraint and compassion that Lincoln espoused didn't work out so well for him personally.

Oh, I dunno, he got on the $5 note... hard telling what the future would be if he lived.

A man's life is more than just being alive.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

3 additional officers facing charges - max 50 yrs in prison, $20K fine
(2 counts aiding/abetting 2nd-degree murder – one count is “unintentional while committing a felony” – the other count is “culpable negligence creating unreasonable risks.”)

 

[printcraft]

That's the question.

I think it's about rubbing one out in a dream but I'm not sure.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

3 additional officers facing charges - max 50 yrs in prison, $20K fine
(2 counts aiding/abetting 2nd-degree murder – one count is “unintentional while committing a felony” – the other count is “culpable negligence creating unreasonable risks.”)

Yeah, I just saw that the 3rd degree murder was upgraded to 2nd degree.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Watching Ellison's press conference now.

What's up with the sign language person? What is she mouthing? It's not words... it's like she has a really bad facial tic. I would think that she'd be mouthing the words in English to go along with her signing.

 

[Phase2]

Looks like Keith Ellison is setting up these prosecutions for failure. If they can't prove intent to kill to 12 jurors on the primary charge, then he will be found not guilty.

 

[nonobaddog]

The more you know about ellison the less there is to like.

He might be setting it up to fail just to cause more riots.

 

[T.Lex]

I guess 2d degree murder is like a version of felony murder - you kill someone unintentionally while committing a different felony. If at some point the officer's actions crossed into felony-battery (like when the victim passed out), and the victim died, then 2d degree murder could totally fit.

It may not be a set-up for failure. It still could be, but that isn't necessarily the only conclusion.

 

[ChristianPatriot]

Drew Brees getting absolutely torched on twitter, by his own teammates even, for saying that he didn’t agree with Kaepernick kneeling.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I guess 2d degree murder is like felony murder - you kill someone unintentionally while committing a different felony. If at some point the officer's actions crossed into felony-battery (like when the victim passed out), and the victim died, then 2d degree murder could totally fit.

It may not be a set-up for failure. It still could be, but that isn't necessarily the only conclusion.

Don't so-called "crimes of passion" fall under 2nd degree murder also? I thought 1st degree required some degree of planning (pre-meditation), but if say, in a bar fight, you pull out a gun and shoot someone (not in self-defense), then that would be 2nd degree.

 

[KittySlayer]

The more you know about ellison the less there is to like.

He might be setting it up to fail just to cause more riots.

So a "speedy" trial timed for an acquittal just before November 3rd. That will be quite the October Surprise.

 

[T.Lex]

Don't so-called "crimes of passion" fall under 2nd degree murder also? I thought 1st degree required some degree of planning (pre-meditation), but if say, in a bar fight, you pull out a gun and shoot someone (not in self-defense), then that would be 2nd degree.

Indiana specifically didn't use the 1st/2d/3d degree paradigm, so I have to go all the way back to law school for that whole framework.

Part of the reason states drifted away from it is because there was so much variation in human behavior. It became easier/more explainable to just call the crime what it was. Murder/voluntary manslaughter/reckless homicide and a few others I can't remember right now.

 

[ChristianPatriot]

Drew Brees getting absolutely torched on twitter, by his own teammates even, for saying that he didn’t agree with Kaepernick kneeling.

And Broncos head coach Vic Fangio issued an “apology” statement after speaking the truth the other day about racism in the NFL.

 

[JettaKnight]

So a "speedy" trial timed for an acquittal just before November 3rd. That will be quite the October Surprise.

Right after we have a brief detour with a plague of 17 year cicadas...


2020 is going swimmingly.