This. My department uses the x2 which offers us a follow up shot if the first one doesn't work. We rrun a 50 percent success rate. The failures are mostly due to baggy clothing and the probes not being able to penetrate. I certainly wouldn't trust my life to a 50 percent success rate.
It's something Taser International doesn't advertise.
They always make it sound like their weapon works 100% of the time.
I even seen a video of a guy being shot with a Taser, both probes went in (he was shirtless) and he just removed one and walked away.
That thing doesn't always work, it's why when you see cops holding one pointed at a suspect you always see a dozen of other cops around with firearms in case it fails.
Pepper spray is a compliance tool, it is not a weapon. It's for when someone is doing something you don't want them to do but no attack is imminent. "Stop following me or I'll spray you" scenario, not active aggression.
1) Reduced effect on drunks or those who are otherwise impaired
2) Pain compliance can be pushed through by a dedicated attacker
3) "Lag time" between being hit and taking effect.
4) If your attacker grapples you, you are now both going to "enjoy" the effects.
5) Almost no one practices with it, you can miss.
6) Almost no one carries it in a manner where it can be accessed quickly enough to matter
7) People who do use it tend to use it too late in the encounter.
Stun guns suck. Tasers suck less, but the cost, LTCH requirement, one shot only, and the fact practice cartridges are expensive also makes it less than ideal.
Situational awareness, conflict avoidance, and unarmed fighting skills are what I'd work on, plus getting to the point of firearm carry.
For spray: Is there a difference between Oleoresin Capsicum and capsaicinoid? Is there a certain percentage to stay above? It looks like it goes anywhere from .2%-10%.
For tasers: Is there a threshold of voltage to stay above?
Also, am I weird for never having been tased/stunned? Are you guys getting enjoyment out of this or just monetary/rep benefits like Fargo???
Also I forgot if Taser guns require a LTCH to carry ... The Indiana Code makes a distinction between "stun guns" and "taser".
IC 35-47-8-1
"Electronic stun weapon" defined
Sec. 1. As used in this chapter, "electronic stun weapon" means
any mechanism that is:
(1) designed to emit an electronic, magnetic, or other type of
charge that exceeds the equivalency of a five (5) milliamp sixty
(60) hertz shock; and
(2) used for the purpose of temporarily incapacitating a person.
IC 35-47-8-2
"Stun gun" defined
Sec. 2. As used in this chapter, "stun gun" means any mechanism
that is:
(1) designed to emit an electronic, magnetic, or other type of
charge that equals or does not exceed the equivalency of a five
(5) milliamp sixty (60) hertz shock; and
(2) used for the purpose of temporarily incapacitating a person.
IC 35-47-8-3
"Taser" defined
Sec. 3. As used in this chapter, "taser" means any mechanism that
is:
(1) designed to emit an electronic, magnetic, or other type of
charge or shock through the use of a projectile; and
(2) used for the purpose of temporarily incapacitating a person.
IC 35-47-8-4
Applicability of handgun provisions
Sec. 4. IC 35-47-2 applies to an electronic stun weapon or taser.
Shave the muggers right off of you.
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I'd enjoy seeing the comb employed against a physically superior attacker (as a female victim is likely to face) at real speeds. Particularly by someone with no or minimal unarmed fighting training, which is the person who will be carrying a comb for self defense.
I'd enjoy seeing the comb employed against a physically superior attacker (as a female victim is likely to face) at real speeds. Particularly by someone with no or minimal unarmed fighting training, which is the person who will be carrying a comb for self defense.
Looks like a poor defensive option.
Just throwing out another option that no one else has mentioned; collapsible baton
His son comes on at about 3:45 supposedly at full speed an without him overreacting...
Hmmm. I hadn't considered that, which is odd considering I own one. It seems like it could be a good option: works every time (one can connect with it), not as dangerous to the wielder (unless taken away), relatively inexpensive (compared to $400-1500 for a taster + LTCH).
What do others think about a combination of OC spray and collapsible baton? Spray to deter, baton if spray doesn't affect attacker/can't get away.
Where is the person going to carry them? Will they train with either?
And you don't suppose he would smash the kid in the face after getting his forearm "ripped" if it was a legitimate fight, or even a full speed training drill? That a determined attacker is really going to be deterred by that? Maybe the old dude from Family Guy if taken by surprise and the kid can run faster than the perv...but a punch to the nuts would probably be better than a comb to the elbow.
Sorry, no. This is the same advise as the "use your keys like brass knuckles in the parking garage" BS. I'd rather have a stapler in a sock.
Where is the person going to carry them? Will they train with either?