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  • indykid

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    Actually it's size makes it a perfect delivery system. The standard 777 has a loaded range of a couple of miles under 9000. Total load capable is about 400,000 pounds. The extended range version adds a couple of fuel tanks increasing the range another 2000 miles, with the expected decrease in load available due to the weight of the extra tanks and fuel. Remove all the seats, strip out the unneeded interior panels and you could install another aux tank giving you a range capable of striking anywhere in the northern hemisphere.

    With max fuel plus the extra tanks, you would still have a load capacity of somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 tons. The 777 is a wide body aircraft, so you could conceivably stuff one heck of a lot of high explosives inside the fuselage.

    About the only down side would be runway length needed to get a super heavy beast off the ground, but it can be done, especially if some rogue government is behind it.
     

    hoosierdoc

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    silver tarnishes. I believe that with the seats out (only a few rows), a crude nuke would fit in there. Now, getting a hold of fissionable material is no easy task....that'll shine the silver a bit.

    I meant they could use a much smaller plane and get the results probably. Standard explosives could pack a whallop.

    Regarding delivery vehicles, could just get a plane domestically and fill with AN and go kaboom. Or from MX or Canada. Don't need the long-haul bird to get to a domestic target.
     

    Joe G

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    About the only down side would be runway length needed to get a super heavy beast off the ground, but it can be done, especially if some rogue government is behind it.
    JATO rockets? :thumbsup:


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    HoughMade

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    I wouldn't worry too much about the passengers. One way or another, I believe they are dead. In the ocean (likely) or executed on the ground somewhere (less likely), they're gone.
     

    Tactical Dave

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    I doubt they are alive and doubt they were ever held hostage..... Someone would have got an email out or a text or something.....

    At that altitude de compressing the plane would only give you a few seconds before you were out.... If it's not in the ocean that's the only other possible outcome really.....

    I don't buy the crashing into the ocean deal, why fly towards the Indian Ocean just to crash it into another ocean.... And then why make the effort to shut off ACARS and the transponder if you just going to crash it? Only reason to do that is if you don't want to be followed.

    I'm fairly confident that they were all dead shortly after the ACARS was shut off.
     
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    Leadeye

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    Theft, something valuable on the plane, pilots in on it from the beginning. Depressurize the plane to kill the passengers, fly to a prearranged location, land and be gone with what ever it is in 12 hours or less. Malaysian government knows what it is and are running two investigations since the beginning, the media one saying crash and the quiet one knowing it's theft which they don't want disclosed for some reason. Malaysia is pretty corrupt so planning this was probably easier than the Lufthansa heist in the 70s.
     

    Tactical Dave

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    Personally think the media keeps pushing that it crashed in the sea because for one the sea is still being searched and for two it's the most logical cause.... Now if they start saying it was stolen and parked some place ex text then people will call them a bunch of crazies..... Well at least the soccer mom types.
     

    PeaShooter

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    Ok, here is my theory.

    The plane was hijacked by one or both of the pilots (the other incapacitated if needed) as well as the passengers, by turning off the emergency O2 supply and then depressurizing the cabin (they may be dead at this point). Anyway, the plane is flown to Kazakhstan (or someplace similar), where Muslim terrorists took possession and concealed it, while it was being converted. Any passengers living at this point would have been executed, that way the terrorists don't have to guard them. The plane is then repainted with a US based airline paint scheme and loaded with a nuke that was stolen from the Ukraine during the recent unrest (possibly from the navy base in Crimea??, which explains the Russians urgency to repossess that region. The plane would then be flown to a Caribbean location and refueled for its final trip. A scheduled flight would be shot down with a stinger missile from Afghanistan (CIA). The Trojan plane then copies the downed planes transponder codes and flys the correct flight plan to a major US city. Finally, the nuke is detonated as the plane flies unmolested over the downtown of the target city. Nukes do the most damage to cities when they are detonated at an altitude.
     

    gunsisgood

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    Ok, here is my theory.

    The plane was hijacked by one or both of the pilots (the other incapacitated if needed) as well as the passengers, by turning off the emergency O2 supply and then depressurizing the cabin (they may be dead at this point). Anyway, the plane is flown to Kazakhstan (or someplace similar), where Muslim terrorists took possession and concealed it, while it was being converted. Any passengers living at this point would have been executed, that way the terrorists don't have to guard them. The plane is then repainted with a US based airline paint scheme and loaded with a nuke that was stolen from the Ukraine during the recent unrest (possibly from the navy base in Crimea??, which explains the Russians urgency to repossess that region. The plane would then be flown to a Caribbean location and refueled for its final trip. A scheduled flight would be shot down with a stinger missile from Afghanistan (CIA). The Trojan plane then copies the downed planes transponder codes and flys the correct flight plan to a major US city. Finally, the nuke is detonated as the plane flies unmolested over the downtown of the target city. Nukes do the most damage to cities when they are detonated at an altitude.

    Make it remote controlled, and you would have one large and vary scary drone.
     

    jblomenberg16

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    Ok, here is my theory.

    The plane was hijacked by one or both of the pilots (the other incapacitated if needed) as well as the passengers, by turning off the emergency O2 supply and then depressurizing the cabin (they may be dead at this point). Anyway, the plane is flown to Kazakhstan (or someplace similar), where Muslim terrorists took possession and concealed it, while it was being converted. Any passengers living at this point would have been executed, that way the terrorists don't have to guard them. The plane is then repainted with a US based airline paint scheme and loaded with a nuke that was stolen from the Ukraine during the recent unrest (possibly from the navy base in Crimea??, which explains the Russians urgency to repossess that region. The plane would then be flown to a Caribbean location and refueled for its final trip. A scheduled flight would be shot down with a stinger missile from Afghanistan (CIA). The Trojan plane then copies the downed planes transponder codes and flys the correct flight plan to a major US city. Finally, the nuke is detonated as the plane flies unmolested over the downtown of the target city. Nukes do the most damage to cities when they are detonated at an altitude.


    How does the plane leave the Middle East and get to the Caribbean un-detected?
     
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