First Crossdresser Working in the White House

[churchmouse]

How do LGBT people affect you?

Following the logic most here are using it is straight parents raising LGBT children. Tell the straight people to stop raising them that way.

Actually the spouse and I are spending our 34th anniversary with 3 couple that are openly gay. We have known and enjoyed these folks company for many years. Been on vacations with them, broke bread in all of our homes with them. No issues what so ever.

I do not want to disagree with your opinions or beliefs as we all have them. You just seem a bit tight on your side of the porch on this one. No offense intended. Is there something more to this...??? Fair question considering.

No dog piles.

 

[Stickfight]

someone's delusion that they are the opposite sex

Is your belief that people are delusional limited to those who claim they actually are the gender their chromosomes do not align with, or do you also believe people who dress and act in opposition to it are delusional as well?

 

[printcraft]

My wife is convince that the first "cross-dresser" to work in the White House is "Mike" Obama.

True.

 

[foszoe]

How do LGBT people affect you?

Following the logic most here are using it is straight parents raising LGBT children. Tell the straight people to stop raising them that way.

I view your question as the wrong one. You ask it in the present tense to justify future action. I can and have been in the company of LGBT individuals. If its live and let live, then I have no problem. But it's not about gay neighbors inviting me over for dinner or me returning the favor. It's about the pursuit of hate speech, of lawsuits that jeopardize people's livelihoods. It's about classifying non acceptance as antagonism. When that starts to happen, then it affects me. It doesn't affect me now anymore than Iran having the bomb or China having a market collapse. The potential is there though.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I view your question as the wrong one. You ask it in the present tense to justify future action. I can and have been in the company of LGBT individuals. If its live and let live, then I have no problem. But it's not about gay neighbors inviting me over for dinner or me returning the favor. It's about the pursuit of hate speech, of lawsuits that jeopardize people's livelihoods. It's about classifying non acceptance as antagonism. When that starts to happen, then it affects me. It doesn't affect me now anymore than Iran having the bomb or China having a market collapse. The potential is there though.

I thought Cruz did a good job addressing this question here:

Ted Cruz Gets in TENSE Confrontation With Actress Ellen Page Over LGBT Issues

 

[littletommy]

How do LGBT people affect you?

I can't speak for anyone else in this thread, but my answer to your question is: they generally don't affect me. It's the people who are so quick to jump up and scream "intolerance" that really **** me off.

 

[Kutnupe14]

How do LGBT people affect you?

Following the logic most here are using it is straight parents raising LGBT children. Tell the straight people to stop raising them that way.

Speaking for the "L" portion of the acronym.... they don't make enough "movies." At least the hot ones.

 

[Kutnupe14]

True.

At 51, she ain't bad at all. I get the grief she gets over her politics and spouse, but she's ain't ugly.... unless one (which I think is mostly the case), assigns a more "traditional" vision of "beauty" upon her.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

At 51, she ain't bad at all. I get the grief she gets over her politics and spouse, but she's ain't ugly.... unless one (which I think is mostly the case), assigns a more "traditional" vision of "beauty" upon her.

Personality?

 

[Kutnupe14]

Personality?

I think she probably is that word that describes a woman who rides a broom, that starts with a "B." So if we're saying personality is what makes her ugly, then fine.... tho none of us really know her, except for the image she is portrayed.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I think she probably is that word that describes a woman who rides a broom, that starts with a "B." So if we're saying personality is what makes her ugly, then fine.... tho none of us really know her, except for the image she is portrayed.

And the words she's recorded using on camera.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Is your belief that people are delusional limited to those who claim they actually are the gender their chromosomes do not align with, or do you also believe people who dress and act in opposition to it are delusional as well?

If you say "I'm a guy who likes to dress like a woman" then no, you aren't delusional. You're no different than a guy who really digs feet or wants to see midgets rolling around in elbow macaroni. Odd fetish by traditional measures, but in touch with reality.

If you say "I was born a man, but I'm actually a woman" then yes, you are delusional. You're no different than someone who thinks they are obese when the observable facts state they are too thin to be healthy, etc.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

At 51, she ain't bad at all. I get the grief she gets over her politics and spouse, but she's ain't ugly.... unless one (which I think is mostly the case), assigns a more "traditional" vision of "beauty" upon her.

Code words?

 

[Arthur Dent]

Actually the spouse and I are spending our 34th anniversary with 3 couple that are openly gay. We have known and enjoyed these folks company for many years. Been on vacations with them, broke bread in all of our homes with them. No issues what so ever.

I do not want to disagree with your opinions or beliefs as we all have them. You just seem a bit tight on your side of the porch on this one. No offense intended. Is there something more to this...??? Fair question considering.

No dog piles.

Nothing more to it really. I'm just baffled at how some people act as if the world is coming to an end every time there is some LGBT thing going on. My life doesn't change at all because of the LGBT people. The sun still rises, water is still wet, work still wants me to show up, etc.

 

[Arthur Dent]

I view your question as the wrong one. You ask it in the present tense to justify future action. I can and have been in the company of LGBT individuals. If its live and let live, then I have no problem. But it's not about gay neighbors inviting me over for dinner or me returning the favor. It's about the pursuit of hate speech, of lawsuits that jeopardize people's livelihoods. It's about classifying non acceptance as antagonism. When that starts to happen, then it affects me. It doesn't affect me now anymore than Iran having the bomb or China having a market collapse. The potential is there though.

Fair enough. Personally I think the stink about the entire subject only exists to further divide the people of the US. With everyone pointing their fingers at everyone else, blaming this person or group for this problem or another, it's distracting everyone from what they should be paying attention to: The government.

 

[printcraft]

At 51, she ain't bad at all. I get the grief she gets over her politics and spouse, but she's ain't ugly.... unless one (which I think is mostly the case), assigns a more "traditional" vision of "beauty" upon her.

Yep, she's one handsome man.

 

[churchmouse]

Fair enough. Personally I think the stink about the entire subject only exists to further divide the people of the US. With everyone pointing their fingers at everyone else, blaming this person or group for this problem or another, it's distracting everyone from what they should be paying attention to: The government.

Winner

 

[Grease]

At 51, she ain't bad at all. I get the grief she gets over her politics and spouse, but she's ain't ugly.... unless one (which I think is mostly the case), assigns a more "traditional" vision of "beauty" upon her.

Isnt that the Sasquatch from the Jack Lynks beef jerky commercials?

 

[churchmouse]

 

[churchmouse]

Isnt that the Sasquatch from the Jack Lynks beef jerky commercials?

I have not done any before/after but it appears she has had some work done.