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FBI seizes trove of cultural artifacts at 91-year-old Indiana man's home
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Trooper
Shooter
The FBI Devoted Massive Resources To Seize An Old Man's Private collection
Advance Indiana?: Seriously, The FBI Devoted Massive Resources To Seize A 91-Year Old Man's Private Collection Of Artifacts?
Been in the news. Guy had decades of artifacts. Many assume that the FBI was after his communication equipment that he designed for MIR space station.
W9NTP Don Miller
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Advance Indiana?: Seriously, The FBI Devoted Massive Resources To Seize A 91-Year Old Man's Private Collection Of Artifacts?
Been in the news. Guy had decades of artifacts. Many assume that the FBI was after his communication equipment that he designed for MIR space station.
W9NTP Don Miller
MAREX SpaceCam 1 Team Members
Trooper
Shooter
Artifact collector is Indiana man of mystery
Even the Indy Star is now questioning what is going on. It may be that the FBI is after something bigger than artifacts.
Even the Indy Star is now questioning what is going on. It may be that the FBI is after something bigger than artifacts.
Has this story made national headlines yet? If not, it needs to. The actions of the FBI seem way over the top.
I know it sounds very "tin foil"…but I wonder if it has something to do with his involvement with the manhattan project?
I'd like to see this warrant or what "probable cause" was based on…a terra cotta figure on the porch?
Bunnykid68
Grandmaster
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But there has been mention that he called them about some of his artifacts, no idea if that is true or not
But there has been mention that he called them about some of his artifacts, no idea if that is true or not
In Trooper's second post, the link indicates that he did not contact the FBI. But at this point, who knows.
Bunnykid68
Grandmaster
I know. It all depends on which story we get to read.
So true. Lots of info circulating in the media reports, but they don't always seem to jive.
Twangbanger
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The federal dude is reported by the Star article as saying the cultural artifacts will be returned to the country of origin. Huh? What prayer in the world do they have of actually figuring out where this stuff is from, and getting it back to there?
Tell you what's going to happen: his stuff is going to get "disappeared" out of there by the FBI, then go into a "storage" location while they wait for this 91-year old to die. They don't want it getting into the hands of his heirs, is my guess. They couldn't go after it while he was younger, or he would have fought them in court and possibly prevailed. But dead men don't sue. When he dies, the heirs (if any) will be all too happy to walk away and not have to deal with Federal meddling in their lives.
After that...it goes god-knows-where.
Come on, Kirk Freeman...rep-a-sent the Establishment Position for us?
Tell you what's going to happen: his stuff is going to get "disappeared" out of there by the FBI, then go into a "storage" location while they wait for this 91-year old to die. They don't want it getting into the hands of his heirs, is my guess. They couldn't go after it while he was younger, or he would have fought them in court and possibly prevailed. But dead men don't sue. When he dies, the heirs (if any) will be all too happy to walk away and not have to deal with Federal meddling in their lives.
After that...it goes god-knows-where.
Come on, Kirk Freeman...rep-a-sent the Establishment Position for us?
I watched the televison broadcast as this unfolded. This, to me, just doesn't pass the smell test. Way to little information re: why this raid was actually necessary. I think I see the men on the grassy knoll making a quick exit.
I'll give fairly good odds that the real reason for FBI intervention ever becomes public knowledge.
I'll give fairly good odds that the real reason for FBI intervention ever becomes public knowledge.
If he can produce receipts for his looted antiquities, what business is it of the .gov....finders/keepers right?
maybe they wrote down serial numbers? maybe they took pictures? maybe some of the items used to be in someplace like this...
Sigh....your question has about a dozen different answers depending on changes to tiny details. I will give you an example, maybe you'll learn something. Say I go to a garage to do a VIN check on a car the mechanic "bought" from a customer. A VIN check is required by the BMV for cars bought out of state to be plated here or cars with salvage titles to be plated. I show up to find the VIN on the car is tampered with and the car was reported stolen. Depending on how it was tampered with or statements given to me by the business employees, the rest of the vehicles in the lot are going to get checked. It went from him calling me to do a simple VIN check to a criminal investigation. If I go to a home of Joe Smith who just bought a motorcycle off Craig's List and needed a VIN check only to find out it was stolen but nothing at the scene leads me to believe its an ongoing criminal enterprise, I taking the bike and nothing else. I could keep changing minor details and my response will change as well. There are too many variables to list here. So I replied "It depends" and it does. There is no one answer and there is no right or wrong answer to the question you posed.
