When 18 little kids are murdered in a school I wish people wouldn't instantly use it as an opening to expound on why guns should be outlawed, or to argue against gun free zones or for teachers carrying in school. It was a very sick man who said never let a tragedy go to waste. A few hours after a tragedy is a time to mourn, not to make political points.
Not to get too far off topic, but I don't many proponents of allowing carrying in school by teachers and administrators are arguing that it will stop somebody on a suicide mission. It will only stop things from being so serious.It will probably be a while before they have a solid answer as to what happened and why. But I really don't think something like this would have been diverted if guns were allowed on the premise. This person was obviously not right. Gun zone or gun free zone, they killed defenseless kids. It was beyond what the states gun law says is legal. Allowing to carry in an area where a place can be robbed my deter would-be criminals. But at a school, this person already had their own deathwish written. But, if teachers were allowed to carry, maybe it would have been less. But more than 1 shot is already too many.
I read his mother was a teacher at the school and he killed her there along with students in her class. but at this point there are a lot of conflicting reports, it'll be a while before it gets sorted out I suppose. Right now all I care about is that in 12 minutes I am going to pick up my 3 kids from their elementary school and hug them.The shooter's mother and father both found dead in there homes also.
Dave
This ^^^Prayers and thoughts have already been sent to the families who have lost a loved one.
There are no words to describe this tragedy. The shooter got off too easy. He should have had to face his maker in prison.
The hardest part of this is there are kids involved. The holiday season will never be the same for the families. The joy is gone.
God bless the families and the victims.
I don't see a problem with that. Kids as late as the mid' 90's in some areas were bringing shotguns and rifles to school and putting them in their lockers/car/trucks to go hunting later.
I think that's what most of the parents say when it happens at their children's schools. But my question is "why?" Why didn't you think it would happen at your child's school? No criticism, just curious.
What's a "real" problem? if it's just being around some kids goofing off with a firearm, then leaving and telling an adult will be about all he can do (and should do, yes). And of course it's a wonderful idea to make sure he knows to do this.
But what happens when shots get fired and someone is intent on causing harm? Ain't a darn thing you can tell him to do except listen to his teacher's instructions because he isn't going to have the autonomy to make his own choices.* And as the parent, you (generally speaking all parents, not anyone in particular) are stuck waiting for the melee to subside and LE to get things under control. You'll be watching from the "safe" side of the "police line: do no cross" tape.
*If the student is older, perhaps he can make his own decision and act on it. BUt what's he gonna do?
The last three - the Colorado cinema, the Oregon Mall, and,now, the school are ALL "gun free zones."
If gun free zones worked, these shootings wouldn't have happened.
Gun free zones should be outlawed.
WTF has society degenerated into.
I personally blame liberalism. This is were society goes when you throw at the moral compass, any semblance of personal responsibility, and your failures are always somebody else's fault.
I also agree this will be used to push for gun control, when the right answer IS to require and train teachers to shoot back. Instead we train them to lock down and make sure no victims can escape! Instead of training them to run away from the shots. After this is what Isreal did, and it stopped most of the mass shootings (Just not the rain of rockets).
Perhaps we should ban murder!!! Oh wait.......
Okay, we won't allow guns on school premises!!! Oh wait......
I know we'll require background checks to buy guns!!! Oh wait.....
Can we just address reality and understand that crazy F#$%$%S will always be crazy F##$#@S and will try to kill people and protect ourselves from them. Nope!! That would violate the rights of crazy murderous F@#$@#$S
Instead we will ban guns, let crazy murderers out of jail because they are full, and kill some evil un-born babies because giving a mass murdered the death penalty (fair trial and first class hanging style) is wrong.
Liberalism is the cancer that is killing the country. It is the best tool of evil and communism to pave the road to heck with good intentions.
No responsibility, and free stuff for everybody. Don't want to work no problem, will steal stuff from other people and give it you. What???? we are out of other peoples money. Oh!!! Well then we need a dictatorship to keep everyone in line!!!
AFter all this worked so well in Russia, no wait Cuba, No wait, Vietnam, No wait Cambodia, No wait Argentina, No wait Venezuala, No wait Greece, No wait Italy. It HAS to work here right. We have Obama!!!
I'd say sorry about the rant, but I am not. Liberals take away rights knowing crap like this will happen and then use it as an excuse to take even more rights away, and they have greater than 50% of usefull idiot morons backing them up that don't realize they will be the ones taking it up the tailpipe when the money runs out!!
It stinks that we can't burn bottom-hats like this at the stake anymore
Obama said we need to find meaningful solutions no matter what the politics, so I guess every school will have a well armed militia real soon!Notice most of these mass shooting happen in "Gun free zones". Teachers or school staff need to be armed or have access to weapons.