Dallas Protest, Shots Fired

[BravoMike]

The guy had several other guns; a "cache" according to the media. Did he buy all of those via private sale? If not then he would have had to get the background check. This argument of he used a gun bought in a Target parking lot and we need UBCs becomes pointless. This also applies if he COULD have passed a background check. Was he precluded in anyway of owning a firearm?

 

[rvb]

Well if this is the rifle used, the libs finally have a case that they have been complaining about. Pretty much all of the other mass shooters bought their guns from dealers with the full background check. It was hard to talk up universal background checks, outlawing private transactions, when none of the guns were bought that way.

would he have been denied through NICS or had to lie on a 4473?

-rvb

 

[Ericpwp]

Army launches internal review of Dallas shooter Micah Johnson?s military record | Dallas Morning News

 

[bwframe]

A good deal of concern trolling by the Indy Channel this morning, capitalizing on recent events.

So here, have an archive link to their article

What to do in Indiana when you're pulled over with a gun

And of course they go with "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should"

Wonder who put this story together?

"Whether the gun is in the glove box or sitting in the front seat or on the center console, police say you should tell them about it – and don't make any sudden movements toward it."

They don't even mention the safest way to be carrying the handgun. In a holster.
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[Expat]

would he have been denied through NICS or had to lie on a 4473?

-rvb

I am not sure. Nothing I have heard so far would have prevented him. But you are talking logic that will never make its way into the media.

 

[actaeon277]

Army launches internal review of Dallas shooter Micah Johnson?s military record | Dallas Morning News

Army finds that Micah Johnson was.... PREVIOUSLY IN THE ARMY.

Seriously. Personnel Service Jackets contain very little info that would be of use.

 

[BogWalker]

would he have been denied through NICS or had to lie on a 4473?

-rvb

I can't think of any reason. Honorable discharge. No prior criminal record. Not ruled mentally ill. Not a known drug addict. Of age to purchase a firearm.

 

[maverick18]

Did anyone see this from last night? In Baltimore, police respond to shots fired call. Then man starts to shoot at the responding officers. The cops kill the man and post a pic of the firearm recovered from the scene. its an AR pistol, I zoomed in and didn't see any serial or other markings on the lower. Possible 80%????

Baltimore Police Kill Man Who Fired on Them With 'AR-15-Style' Rifle - NBC News

 

[rvb]

not a "normal" ar lower. looks like a carbon model. sometimes those put the SN is places other than the left side of magwell.
edit: 308?
-rvb

 

[printcraft]

Did anyone see this from last night? In Baltimore, police respond to shots fired call. Then man starts to shoot at the responding officers. The cops kill the man and post a pic of the firearm recovered from the scene. its an AR pistol, I zoomed in and didn't see any serial or other markings on the lower. Possible 80%????

Baltimore Police Kill Man Who Fired on Them With 'AR-15-Style' Rifle - NBC News

not a "normal" ar lower. looks like a carbon model. sometimes those put the SN is places other than the left side of magwell.
edit: 308?
-rvb

What are the chances its stolen? I'm going with 80%.

 

[rvb]

not a "normal" ar lower. looks like a carbon model. sometimes those put the SN is places other than the left side of magwell.
edit: 308?
-rvb

looks like maybe an 80% polymer lower??
[edited] https://genesiscnc.com/product/polymer-80-ar-15/

What are the chances its stolen? I'm going with 80%.

most likely!

-rvb

 

[maverick18]

looks like maybe an 80% polymer lower??
[edited] https://genesiscnc.com/product/polymer-80-ar-15/

That looks like it to me. Any thoughts on what this may do to the 80% market?

 

[Hawkeye]

Well if this is the rifle used, the libs finally have a case that they have been complaining about. Pretty much all of the other mass shooters bought their guns from dealers with the full background check. It was hard to talk up universal background checks, outlawing private transactions, when none of the guns were bought that way.

I've often wondered aobut UBC's and "private transactions". If someone is intending to commit a crime with a gun, arent they gone to acquire one illegally, one way or another, anyway? Seems like UBC's aer only going to affect law abiding gun sellers and purchasers.

 

[actaeon277]

I've often wondered aobut UBC's and "private transactions". If someone is intending to commit a crime with a gun, arent they gone to acquire one illegally, one way or another, anyway? Seems like UBC's aer only going to affect law abiding gun sellers and purchasers.

I've pointed that out to proponents of UBCs.
They usually reply with something like, "Well, we have to do SOMETHING!"

 

[rvb]

looks like maybe an 80% polymer lower??
[edited] https://genesiscnc.com/product/polymer-80-ar-15/

That looks like it to me. Any thoughts on what this may do to the 80% market?

nada. who knows about the legality in MD anyway. they have an AWB and registration. If I remember I'll ask my good friend who's still living behind the iron curtain. Once I escaped back to America I stopped following their laws so closely. Used to be 80% builds were legal, but I don't know with their new AWB.

-rvb

 

[jamil]

I've often wondered aobut UBC's and "private transactions". If someone is intending to commit a crime with a gun, arent they gone to acquire one illegally, one way or another, anyway? Seems like UBC's aer only going to affect law abiding gun sellers and purchasers.

I've pointed that out to proponents of UBCs.
They usually reply with something like, "Well, we have to do SOMETHING!"

The disdain they use to talk down to gun owners kinda betrays them. They act as if it's a kind of punishment. They got to get something passed, anything. Just some way to win something. And some of the most ridiculous laws read more like they want people to accidentally break the law.

 

[Expat]

I've often wondered aobut UBC's and "private transactions". If someone is intending to commit a crime with a gun, arent they gone to acquire one illegally, one way or another, anyway? Seems like UBC's aer only going to affect law abiding gun sellers and purchasers.

The purpose of UBC is a stepping stone to full blown registration since it is unenforceable otherwise.

 

[The Bubba Effect]

The purpose of UBC is a stepping stone to full blown registration since it is unenforceable otherwise.

I see an attempt at confiscation as being inevitable after registration.

 

[BogWalker]

I see an attempt at confiscation as being inevitable after registration.

History supports your conclusion.

 

[jsharmon7]

It appears there are at least 3 officers down in Baton Rouge after an active shooter situation. Shooter down as well.