Clinton or Sanders

[fullauto 45]

Sanders or The Hildabeast?
That's like asking do you want to shoot yourself in the left side of the head or the right side or the head.

 

[Jludo]

Correction. I don't think where she stands changes one iota. Where she SAYS she stands changes with the polls.

You give her too much credit, she doesn't have any true values/morals. She says and does whatever it takes to get elected, nothing more.

 

[Jludo]

Bernies honest, if I were voting in the Democratic Primary that'd be all I'd care about. I'll take an honest socialist over a dishonest capitalist every time. At least one is trying to do the right thing, the other is genuinely out to screw you to benefit herself while pretending she's on your side.

 

[ArmedProgrammer]

Bernies honest, if I were voting in the Democratic Primary that'd be all I'd care about. I'll take an honest socialist over a dishonest capitalist every time. At least one is trying to do the right thing, the other is genuinely out to screw you to benefit herself while pretending she's on your side.

it's more like a person that is a socialist and is truthful about it vs a person that is a socialist and deceitful about it.

In my book both can rot in Hades... I want nothing to do with either of them.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Ok I know there are some democrats here on INGO that will vote democrat until the day they die, no matter what.

Democrats on INGO?

Clinton or Sanders?

 

[Jludo]

it's more like a person that is a socialist and is truthful about it vs a person that is a socialist and deceitful about it.

In my book both can rot in Hades... I want nothing to do with either of them.

I don't think Hilary's a socialist at heart, She's whatever gets here elected at heart, that's why she's no better and no worse than most the republicans running, they are politicians first and foremost. It's getting elected that defines them, very few have any true values and on the occasion they do it's very obvious and refreshing.

 

[Drail]

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[singlemalt]

Sanders or The Hildabeast?
That's like asking do you want to shoot yourself in the left side of the head or the right side or the head.

Now that made me laugh!

 

[Jludo]

Democracy has come to mean that "we the voters" get to choose between Hitler or Stalin. Take your pick. I have never in my life of 63 years met a presidential candidate that I would vote for. They're all crooks. I mean out of all of the people in the U.S. the best they can come up with are clowns like Richard Nixon or Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton or Barack Obama? Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. It's not a Constitutional Republic - it's a scam.

This^

Americans get taken year in and year out by this charade. That the Democrats are actually the good guys, or that the Republicans are actually the good guys. They are one in the same, through and through. Yet we get so caught up in the Republican vs Democrat game that we entirely miss the bigger picture. They get us arguing about relative minor issues and the big picture goes entirely unnoticed. That they are opposite sides to the same coin.

 

[ArmedProgrammer]

I don't think Hilary's a socialist at heart, She's whatever gets here elected at heart, that's why she's no better and no worse than most the republicans running, they are politicians first and foremost. It's getting elected that defines them, very few have any true values and on the occasion they do it's very obvious and refreshing.

While I agree that she's a megalomaniac, I do not agree for a second that she's no worse than the republicans running. She's a bitter, man hating, sixties and seventies reject, hell bent on her agenda. And frankly if I had to pick person that was in it for the power, I'd pick someone with an agenda I could agree with more.

So we get to disagree on that.


Of the current crop of candidates, there are two that DO have values and stick to them that I can think of : Carson and Rand Paul come to mind. And that's without even thinking twice. But you appear to rail against them at every turn. Should we really take your statement of "I find them refreshing" at face value?

Or have I been mistaken?

 

[Jludo]

While I agree that she's a megalomaniac, I do not agree for a second that she's no worse than the republicans running. She's a bitter, man hating, sixties and seventies reject, hell bent on her agenda. And frankly if I had to pick person that was in it for the power, I'd pick someone with an agenda I could agree with more.

So we get to disagree on that.



Of the current crop of candidates, there are two that DO have values and stick to them that I can think of : Carson and Rand Paul come to mind. And that's without even thinking twice. But you appear to rail against them at every turn. Should we really take your statement of "I find them refreshing" at face value?

Or have I been mistaken?

I like Carson and Paul, have never railed against them. It's Trump, Jeb Rubio and Cruz who I think are no better. The faults with Carson and Paul is their realizing they need to stray from their ideals to get elected. (I'd like to think that's not the case)

 

[spec4]

The prior Clinton administration brought us one scandal after another. She was in the thick of it. If she gets in I expect the same and can hope maybe one of them will be enough to finally bring her down. She is neither competent or patriotic.

 

[Drail]

Election cycles are just like the Super Bowl to most people.

 

[87iroc]

Why did I think 'Chicken' when I read the title of this thread.

 

[Cygnus]

Why did I think 'Chicken' when I read the title of this thread.

Literally why I just checked in to the thread. I would go Sanders because he could at least do the chicken right. Oh and while I might not agree with him he won't f'ng to me every chance he gets!!!!

 

[gtpilot21]

All I can say is I hope Hilary does not get it. Not voting for either of them and still making my mind up on who.