Christians arrested 7 times for signs declaring homosexuality a sin

[kingnereli]

I've never heard a child call another child an ignorant lemming or a busybody. Those are adult insults.....thank you very much! You stinky, John Browning worshipping poo-poo head.

No need to bring John Browning into this.


And I'll share something that my third grade teach taught me. It's LOSES, not LOOSES. You and dburkhead need to get together and have a spelling contest. It would be the funniest 2 minutes on the internet. And you'd both lose.

Ok. That one made me laugh. I'll see if I can set that one up. I'm glad you got the point though. Lose or Loose it is still no way to argue.

*uses spell check function this time to give Agent 007 no more fodder*

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[kevinj110]

And yes I believe they should be allowed to show up and peacefully preach what they believe the same way I think the National Socialist Party should be allowed to as anyone from the nation of Islam should. Freedom is freedom.

 

[bigus_D]

I love it when people think "conservative = religious"

and whoever thinks those signs aren't full of hate... WOW.

 

[Joe Williams]

Throughout the years I have seen Christians evangelize or witness and seen them do it effectively or in a not-so-effective manner. My point here is that I think these people in GA are not helping the spreading of Gospel or pointing out our sins in an effective manner.snip

That is utterly irrelevant. What IS relevant is that the government is telling them what they can and cannot say. It is only a short step to what they can and cannot worship.

 

[Joe Williams]

They should have bought the permits; or, next time buy the permits ahead of time.

Ignoring a law about getting permits for a 'parade' (GRAY area== leeway could have been given I'm sure) is just as unbiblical. We are to submit ourselves to the 'higher' powers at least for peaceful reasons.
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So, according to you, Christians are sinning if they choose to exercise their First Amendment rights? If the government tells them they cannot speak, they are in violation of God's law for standing up for our Constitution?

I take it that if/when guns are outlawed, you'll be pleased to turn them all in? No hiding, no protesting, just meek subservience to the government, since speaking out would be "unbiblical?"

 

[Joe Williams]

The 10 Commandments are not and never have been the ONLY rules from GOD for his children to follow.
How about Acts 2:38

That is a direct order from GOD with a promise and the next verse includes another component of that promise.
1) Is this one of the 10 commendments? Answer: no
2) Is this an order (command) from GOD? Answer: yes
IF you don't want the truth... then don't ask.

'Kay... but if two married gay men are baptized into Christ, are they not still forgiven, and Christian? Are we to judge what Christ has forgiven? They've read the Bible, and made their best judgement as to what is and is not sin. If they are committing a sin, it is between them and Christ. You should be too busy removing the plank from your own eye.

IOW... If it's sinful, then God made them sinful for his own purposes, for I am fully convinced that in most cases homosexuality is not a chosen lifestyle. They can either turn their backs on who they are as the person God made them, and thus turn their backs on God himself, or embrace Christ and be forgiven for whatever sins they've created.

Which is still utterly irrelevant to the conversation at hand... which is that if those people wanted to stand on the street corner talking about how being a Christ murdering Jew is sinful, and they should all burn, they get to do so. If they want to proclaim Bimbo the Goat as their deity of choice, they get to do so. We have a right to free speech. People do NOT have a right to like that speech, they do not have a right to not be offended. And cops do not have the right to tell Christians or any other religion what message they are allowed to preach.

 

[Joe Williams]

snip
Last time I checked, Christians were good, honest folks.snip

See, if that were true, we would not have needed Christ, and would still be Jews.

Christians are flawed, sinful, and every bit as prone to judge others as you did in your post. That is the whole reason and need for Christ.

 

[Joe Williams]

Heheheeee..... YEAH..... all six of them who actually practice what they preach!!!

Interesting how some types of hate is OK as long as you hide behind a bible!!!

Repped, BTW!!!

Given your oft expressed hatred for Christians, I'm having a hard time being convinced that you are an authority to criticize anyone for that particular emotion.

 

[GetA2J]

'Kay... but if two married gay men are baptized into Christ, are they not still forgiven, and Christian? Are we to judge what Christ has forgiven? They've read the Bible, and made their best judgement as to what is and is not sin. If they are committing a sin, it is between them and Christ. You should be too busy removing the plank from your own eye.

IOW... If it's sinful, then God made them sinful for his own purposes, for I am fully convinced that in most cases homosexuality is not a chosen lifestyle. They can either turn their backs on who they are as the person God made them, and thus turn their backs on God himself, or embrace Christ and be forgiven for whatever sins they've created.

Which is still utterly irrelevant to the conversation at hand... which is that if those people wanted to stand on the street corner talking about how being a Christ murdering Jew is sinful, and they should all burn, they get to do so. If they want to proclaim Bimbo the Goat as their deity of choice, they get to do so. We have a right to free speech. People do NOT have a right to like that speech, they do not have a right to not be offended. And cops do not have the right to tell Christians or any other religion what message they are allowed to preach.

Let's play match the color statements.

I have never seen a statement more stupid than that.
NOBODY will ever convince me that homosexuality is a not a chosen lifestyle.
IF GOD actually created and condones homosexuality I should just keep my mouth shut because they will become extinct in about one or maybe two generations.
Either way you are yourself speaking with much irrelevency becaue MY argument was to thwart the people who had a problem letting Christians excersize their 1st ammendment rights because they didn't quite like their words. It was silly of my to defend their (christians) message because that (defense of the christian message) is the work of the LORD not men. The fact remains that They (christians) were denied their 1st ammendment rights and some people here are OK with that.
"I" am NOT!

 

[henktermaat]

And yes I believe they should be allowed to show up and peacefully preach what they believe the same way I think the National Socialist Party should be allowed to as anyone from the nation of Islam should. Freedom is freedom.

^^ This ^^

 

[henktermaat]

I love it when people think "conservative = religious"

and whoever thinks those signs aren't full of hate... WOW.

Irrelevant on both counts

 

[esrice]

The only debate that gets hotter than a political one is a religious one. Now you guys have gone and mixed them together!

The thread seems to be progressing well, with opposing viewpoints being expressed, but I just want to remind everyone to keep any personal or direct bashing out of it-- that's all I ask.

Thanks!

 

[Lost Californian]

After going thru this thread again, it amazes me how fast it went from a 1st Amendment violation to outright antagonism of Christians. According to the article, not one of the four signs displayed mentioned hate, or derided an individual, or was derogatory or defamatory in any way. I know, those are big words….use a dictionary.

Seems to me there is a disproportionate amount of ill will towards Christianity all across America these days. After studying on this awhile, I have come to a conclusion: Christianity makes most people in America uncomfortable and guilty with the choices they have made in life. The Bible, God’s word, puts things in black and white. There is no grey area at all. It is yes or no, hit or miss, sin or not sin. No middle ground, no maybes, no ifs, and no chance to say "but it wasn't my fault!" And this is repeated over and over throughout the Bible. America big business, the main stream media, even the government, has been doing their best to teach us that “If it feels good, do it” and “there are no absolutes.” This is totally counter to the way Christ taught.

Just as the best marksman makes mistakes and misses the ten ring, so do Christians make mistakes. These mistakes are then brought out by those who would bring down all of Christianity, and with broad brushstrokes they stereotype an entire group of people. To make it worse, there is no tolerance given anymore for Christians.

I know I really shouldn’t be feeding the fire here, and I hope I don’t break any rules. Most of the posts in this thread that oppose Christianity are not looking to change their viewpoint. If, however, one person reads thru this and finds something to change their live towards God, then it all has been in a good cause. Otherwise, if you want to talk to me more about this, contact via PM or email. I am willing to talk about God and Christianity with you.

 

[techres]

After going thru this thread again, it amazes me how fast it went from a 1st Amendment violation to outright antagonism of Christians.

Ummm.... Perhaps because the sign and protester is using outright antagonism of gays? All under the guise of Christianity?

That might be why.

Start a conversation at 11 and it usually will stay there.

Now, I fully support their right to have the signs, to protest, and to say their peace - all without a permit to do so. That is what the 1st Amendment is about. The permit requirement is just bunk.

But please, don't pretend the conversation started at volume level 3 and the "Anti-Christians" jumped in here and turned it up to 11 out of nowhere. That is just not being honest.

(all of the above is said as a board member, not a mod.)

 

[Jay]

So much hate... puts a bad taste in my mouth.

Strange, I can't taste with my mouth shut...... of course a lot depends on where /why one opens one's mouth...........

 

[techres]

Strange, I can't taste with my mouth shut...... of course a lot depends on where /why one opens one's mouth...........

And I cannot figure out why people's private lives are such the obsession of others. What my neighbors do in their own home is their business, not mine. If they are doing something God will punish them for later, that is between them and God, not me.

I will leave the casting stones alone and not worry so much about the sliver in their eyes. I have my own planks to deal with.

Not to mention, they did not ask me for my opinion.

 

[Crystalship1]

Given your oft expressed hatred for Christians, I'm having a hard time being convinced that you are an authority to criticize anyone for that particular emotion.

So so typical, Joe. I have never expressed hatred to christians. The vast majority of everyone that I love and care about are christians. But hey... thanks for the label and judging me!!!

 

[Crystalship1]

I love it when people think "conservative = religious"

and whoever thinks those signs aren't full of hate... WOW.

Irrelevant on both counts

Bahahahahaaaaaa!!!!!

Talk about denial!!!!!

 

[bigus_D]

Strange, I can't taste with my mouth shut...... of course a lot depends on where /why one opens one's mouth...........

Hey man... I was just expressing my opinion.

The statement, "Gays are just getting what they deserve: AIDS." is certainly not very loving. We could set up a spectrum with hate on the left and love on the right... Where do you think the statement above falls?

OK... maybe left and right isn't the best scale for this religious/political conversation. Let's call hate -10 and call love +10. I give the statement above a -7. I won't try to write a statement online that would rank in the -8 or lower for obvious reasons.

How do you rank this statement? Do you think it is completely neutral?

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I'd also like to point out that there is only one post in this entire thread that comes close to suggesting that the rights of these protesters were not infringed. It was the post saying that the bible tells us to follow the laws of the land (quoted below). So far as I could tell, everybody else (and arguably even the quoted post) expressed a pro 1st amendment position along with their distaste for the message.

Also, the bible thumbing started with the OP... even before that. The bible thumping started with the arrested marchers.

Ignoring a law about getting permits for a 'parade' (GRAY area== leeway could have been given I'm sure) is just as unbiblical. We are to submit ourselves to the 'higher' powers at least for peaceful reasons.

 

[mettle]

Hey man... I was just expressing my opinion.

The statement, "Gays are just getting what they deserve: AIDS." is certainly not very loving. We could set up a spectrum with hate on the left and love on the right... Where do you think the statement above falls?

OK... maybe left and right isn't the best scale for this religious/political conversation. Let's call hate -10 and call love +10. I give the statement above a -7. I won't try to write a statement online that would rank in the -8 or lower for obvious reasons.

How do you rank this statement? Do you think it is completely neutral?

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I'd also like to point out that there is only one post in this entire thread that comes close to suggesting that the rights of these protesters were not infringed. It was the post saying that the bible tells us to follow the laws of the land (quoted below). So far as I could tell, everybody else (and arguably even the quoted post) expressed a pro 1st amendment position along with their distaste for the message.

Also, the bible thumbing started with the OP... even before that. The bible thumping started with the arrested marchers.

I posted that. I think the Constitutional rights have pushed around; yes, but those who are trying to be an example to all, law abiding and Christian, should also do all they can NOT to bring anything negative towards the Lord. (attention) Twist it how you want, the 'suggestion' was not there. But twisting is what some do these days, when it fits their need.