Chris Christie Our Next President?

[Trooper]

There is talk of a Christie/Rand Paul ticket.

 

[ViperJock]

I predict two New World Order puppets will be put up for election and all you suckers will vote against the puppet you like the least.



Disclaimer: This post is not a direct response to any individual post already made in this thread.

Yep. And all you suckers will be stuck with whoever we pick! Who is the bigger sucker?

 

[JTScribe]

Like it or not folks, Christie is the most electable Republican, RIGHT NOW, on the national level.

If he gets the 2016 nomination, and people choose to not vote for him because they don't agree 100%, or even 75%, with his views and policies (be it guns, gays, whatever) then I hope they are content with eight more years of President Clinton.

IMO, Republican politicians would be much better served if they stopped worrying about social issues and instead reverted to being the party of personal freedom/responsibility and fiscal common sense. Put another way, people see hypocrisy when some of those in the "party of small government" attempt to use government to legislate their vision of morality on others.

Okay, so let's presume that I as a social conservative am willing to suspend those principles for a fiscal conservative. (In point of fact I pretty much am. A great way to reduce the number of abortions is to have a good economy. Abortions tend to go up when people can't afford children.)

Who's the mythical fiscal conservative I'm voting for? Christie? Are you freaking serious? The guy has hiked taxes in NJ as well as increased spending. Signed up for the Medicaid expansion. Was one of the highest-spending US attorneys in the country for travel.

I mean, in all honesty the candidate that most closely resembles your socially moderate fiscally conservative candidate is Rand Paul, and the establishment is falling all over themselves to try and crush him. There are ZERO mainstream Republicans who are fiscally conservative. The main claim to fame is that they at least cut taxes when they are expanding the budget. Yippee.

 

[rambone]

Christie is hated by even more Republicans than Romney. And that's saying something.

It will be another landslide victory for the Democrats.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Christie is much more a fiscal conservative than a social conservative; as you mentioned look at his moderate (some here would call them liberal) views on the social issues you mentioned.

Case in point: Christie axed a new tunnel between Manhattan and New Jersey, much to the ire of Bloomberg and other New Yorkers. Christie's response? I'd love to have a new tunnel, BUT WE CAN'T AFFORD IT.

So what you're really saying is he's closer to the Libertarians than he is to the Republicans?

I wonder which of the failed Republican candidates will likely be chosen as the next LP party candidate. Johnson is an already demonstrated loser. Will they pick him again and lose again? Will they be able to attract a person that can really appeal to a sizable segment of the voters or will they once again pick the Republicans' 7th place loser? That will an interesting story too.

 

[The Bubba Effect]

Anyone but Hillary, right?

 

[Shadow8088]

Christie is hated by even more Republicans than Romney. And that's saying something.

It will be another landslide victory for the Democrats.

keep playing the "anyone but" game and this will continue....

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Okay, so let's presume that I as a social conservative am willing to suspend those principles for a fiscal conservative. (In point of fact I pretty much am. A great way to reduce the number of abortions is to have a good economy. Abortions tend to go up when people can't afford children.)

Who's the mythical fiscal conservative I'm voting for? Christie? Are you freaking serious? The guy has hiked taxes in NJ as well as increased spending. Signed up for the Medicaid expansion. Was one of the highest-spending US attorneys in the country for travel.

I mean, in all honesty the candidate that most closely resembles your socially moderate fiscally conservative candidate is Rand Paul, and the establishment is falling all over themselves to try and crush him. There are ZERO mainstream Republicans who are fiscally conservative. The main claim to fame is that they at least cut taxes when they are expanding the budget. Yippee.

They've forgotten about Paul for the time being. They're busy trying to kill of Cruz and Lee now.

 

[Trooper]

They've forgotten about Paul for the time being. They're busy trying to kill of Cruz and Lee now.

No, they want Rand Paul to support Christie then be the VP candidate to get the libertarians on board.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

No, they want Rand Paul to support Christie then be the VP candidate to get the libertarians on board.

They just had 6% of them fall for a pig-in-a-poke in Va's governor's election. They'll vote for anything that carries the Libertarian Party banner. They're just as bad as the dems's and rep's they like to point to and laugh at.

 

[jamil]

There is talk of a Christie/Rand Paul ticket.

I'll vote for that ticket only if my crystal ball says Christie will be physically unable to carry on the duties of POTUS immediately after his inaugural address.

They just had 6% of them fall for a pig-in-a-poke in Va's governor's election. They'll vote for anything that carries the Libertarian Party banner. They're just as bad as the dems's and rep's they like to point to and laugh at.

I don't know. I think the purist L's stayed home. Well, that is if they bothered to check Sarvis' platform. I suspect the majority of people who voted for Sarvis were people who believed the ROBO calls that said Cucc supports Obamacare. That 6.7% Sarvis got was way more than the usual 1%.

 

[IrishSon of Liberty]

I'd like to see Trey Gowdy get involved in the discussion. As a no nonsense Prosecuting Attorney in South Carolina, and his outspoken demeanor in the House Oversight Committee regarding Fast & Furious, Benghazi, & IRS targeting, I think he'd make an excellent running mate for Rand or Cruz.

 

[avboiler11]

Okay, so let's presume that I as a social conservative am willing to suspend those principles for a fiscal conservative. (In point of fact I pretty much am. A great way to reduce the number of abortions is to have a good economy. Abortions tend to go up when people can't afford children.)

Who's the mythical fiscal conservative I'm voting for? Christie? Are you freaking serious? The guy has hiked taxes in NJ as well as increased spending. Signed up for the Medicaid expansion. Was one of the highest-spending US attorneys in the country for travel.

I mean, in all honesty the candidate that most closely resembles your socially moderate fiscally conservative candidate is Rand Paul, and the establishment is falling all over themselves to try and crush him. There are ZERO mainstream Republicans who are fiscally conservative. The main claim to fame is that they at least cut taxes when they are expanding the budget. Yippee.

I don't disagree with anything you wrote - I think Rand Paul would be a fine president because he is conservative but pragmatic, in a way his father NEVER was.

Frankly I spend a LOT of time in Louisiana and like Bobby Jindal, and think he is a compelling candidate (a minority Republican with crisis chops following Deepwater Horizon) but don't know if he'd be willing to go that far.

Also, it'll probably get me flamed off INGO, but if Huntsman would have gotten the 2012 nomination he would be POTUS right now.

 

[mrjarrell]

They just had 6% of them fall for a pig-in-a-poke in Va's governor's election. They'll vote for anything that carries the Libertarian Party banner. They're just as bad as the dems's and rep's they like to point to and laugh at.

There was no pig in a poke in the race and the people who voted for Sarvis were voting for two things. Their candidate and the shot at getting 10% of the vote so the LP gained ballot access in VA. It's voting for a purpose, and Libertarians have to do that all over the country because lame ass frightened republicrats have stacked the deck against people running as third party candidates and routinely deny ballot access. Interesting thing about Sarvis, he's run for office in VA before. As a republican. Guess that doesn't count tho. He was still a better candidate than the bat**** crazy Cuccinelli, (who suddenly went from social conservative lunatic to libertarian in the last 3 days of his campaign).

 

[ocsdor]

Yep. And all you suckers will be stuck with whoever we pick! Who is the bigger sucker?

Thanks for proving my point.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

There was no pig in a poke in the race and the people who voted for Sarvis were voting for two things. Their candidate and the shot at getting 10% of the vote so the LP gained ballot access in VA. It's voting for a purpose, and Libertarians have to do that all over the country because lame ass frightened republicrats have stacked the deck against people running as third party candidates and routinely deny ballot access. Interesting thing about Sarvis, he's run for office in VA before. As a republican. Guess that doesn't count tho. He was still a better candidate than the bat**** crazy Cuccinelli, (who suddenly went from social conservative lunatic to libertarian in the last 3 days of his campaign).

I thought only the dems and the reps voted for less than ideal candidates to preserve and advance their party...I guess not.

 

[ViperJock]

Thanks for proving my point.

For some reason people with your point of view always seem to forget that they are cows too.... I may take 10 minutes out of my day to vote while you post pithy sayings online but we will both be in the same line. Why is it that you think you are going to be exempt from the outcome?

 

[Manatee]

Also, it'll probably get me flamed off INGO, but if Huntsman would have gotten the 2012 nomination he would be POTUS right now.

I have a sense you are right and that more Americans would have been better served by him than Obama.

 

[JTScribe]

I don't disagree with anything you wrote - I think Rand Paul would be a fine president because he is conservative but pragmatic, in a way his father NEVER was.

Frankly I spend a LOT of time in Louisiana and like Bobby Jindal, and think he is a compelling candidate (a minority Republican with crisis chops following Deepwater Horizon) but don't know if he'd be willing to go that far.

Also, it'll probably get me flamed off INGO, but if Huntsman would have gotten the 2012 nomination he would be POTUS right now.

I like Jindal and would have no problem if he were the candidate. Huntsman, on the other hand, is a sleaze. Leaking info to the press about Mitch Daniels past marital problems (which were not his fault IIRC) to keep him out of the field? Doing the same to Herman Cain? Having his dad tell Harry Reid Romney hadn't paid taxes in a decade? That's all some pretty Nixonian stuff right there.

 

[CarmelHP]

Christie is the worst of both worlds, he's a big government Republican who, supposedly, appeals to social conservatives? There's a winning combo, because if there's one thing social conservatives have going for them moving forward it's gay marriage, drug legalization and abortion...
Also I don't understand why people like his personality so much, doesn't he usually just come off as a prick?

The press likes him like they liked John McCain, they're both pricks, but they are the press' pricks...for the moment. He will be coddled until he's in an actual campaign against one of the anointed crypto-socialist Democrats, and then will be kicked to the curb.