Carrying without a safety engaged

[db1959]

When I carry my SR40 I carry with the safety off. If you are familiar with the SR series they have a trigger safety. When I carry the P30 I carry it hammer down (no safety).

 

[Dead Duck]

Food for thought -

Cocked and NOT locked while carrying in a proper holster that covers the trigger guard, most will agree, is O.K.

If you were to upholster your gun to transfer it from one location to another, would you then engage the safety until your weapon is secure again?

This is why I prefer a handgun with a safety but not to carry it with the safety on.
Guns can discharge when you're loading and unloading the chamber and when something pushes the trigger. A safety engaged would lower the chances of a discharge during these times.

As careful as everyone thinks they are, why not have that extra level of security? Why take the chance?




Obviously some guns you can't engage the safety while racking the slide, like the 1911 but you can while transferring it loaded to different locations.

BTW - My Glocks, I carry with the safeties off but I do engage them before upholstering and racking the slides.

 

[Amac91]

I'm not too concerned about engaging the safety accidentally. The 6906 safety is not easy to flick unintentionally. Thanks for all the input.

 

[Colt556]

The way I carry my rotation of EDCs;

1911 and Hi Power- Loaded Cocked n Locked

Sig or CZ- Loaded with hammer down in DA/SA mode

P7- Loaded

Revolvers- Loaded

 

[CitiusFortius]

Food for thought -

Cocked and NOT locked while carrying in a proper holster that covers the trigger guard, most will agree, is O.K.

If you were to upholster your gun to transfer it from one location to another, would you then engage the safety until your weapon is secure again?

This is why I prefer a handgun with a safety but not to carry it with the safety on.
Guns can discharge when you're loading and unloading the chamber and when something pushes the trigger. A safety engaged would lower the chances of a discharge during these times.

As careful as everyone thinks they are, why not have that extra level of security? Why take the chance?




Obviously some guns you can't engage the safety while racking the slide, like the 1911 but you can while transferring it loaded to different locations.

BTW - My Glocks, I carry with the safeties off but I do engage them before upholstering and racking the slides.

That guy who shot himself at the 1500 probably thought safeties were a dumb idea...

My carry gun has external hammer down and safety on. Unholstering and flipping safety off with my thumb has become second nature. I dont think it slows me down and I like piece of mind since I'm around kids a lot.

I dont begrudge those who think the only safety that matters is between your ears, just please dont shoot me on accident.

 

[daddymikey1975]

Both of my Kel Tec pistols are DAO and no safeties. When I carry either pistol, it's loaded +1

My new M&P 9 has no mag disconnect, and no thumb safety. There is the one integrated into the trigger, but that's it. I carry the M&P loaded +1.

I am very cautious if I have to holster the M&P to make sure my shirt or something else doesn't snag the trigger. I take that step slowly and cautiously. Trigger finger rides next to the slide on the draw stroke by default.

My wife carries a Bersa thunder .380 and carries her loaded +1. We use the de-cocker to lower the hammer so the first pull is DA followed by SA.

 

[strokin7.3]

I only use the safety on my sr9c while holstering, then once its in there i flip the safety off. I also removed the magazine disconnect "safety"

 

[Mr.Softball]

No safety on either of my carries and I feel comfortable with it but I do not hand it to anybody to fondle with out unloading first.

 

[Shootsforfun]

Once again I will say it....Trigger Disipline..You must train yourself not to put your finger, elbow, ear, nose or anything else inside that trigger guard unless you want to kill something...

 

[Mr.Softball]

X2 on that idea.

 

[stephen87]

I carry a SIG Sauer P6 full time, DA/SA setup with no external safety. I feel comfortable with it. As a matter of fact, I'm considering a 1911 and will probably carry without the safety engaged.

 

[DMND1]

a glock it's safe till ya pull the trigger!!!!!

 

[foszoe]

Walking around in crowded places, I rely on DA as my safety. Going down the interstate, I flick the safety on as an added safety measure.

 

[Regnar]

Train that way.
Every time.
Repeat.

 

[88E30M50]

I carry my s/a only pistols cooked and locked, but I recently started to carry my CZ 75 Compact with the safety off and the hammer down on a loaded chamber. The trigger pull has been lightened and is not much different than my Glocks now.

 

[Dead Duck]

I carry my s/a only pistols cooked and locked, but I recently started to carry my CZ 75 Compact with the safety off and the hammer down on a loaded chamber. The trigger pull has been lightened and is not much different than my Glocks now.

Don't they get hot?

 

[Never A Victim]

If you think an external safety makes you a "safer" shooter, you have a training issue.

I do not want anything else in the way of me drawing my gun and pulling the trigger.

 

[tacdriver]

The majority of the handguns I carry do not have external mechanical safeties. However I might grab one that does from time to time depending on weather & clothing .

Needless to say I prefer not use a mechanical safety so as not to cause any confusion regardless of weapon. I always train with keeping my one "true safety" out of the trigger guard and off the trigger until target is acquired, but that's me and how I train myself.

 

[FrankTank83]

I see no problem with carrying in the condition you described. As long as you have a quality holster you are good to go.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

I know of a deputy sheriff who shot himself with a 1911 because the thumb safety was off and the strap on his tactical vest deactivated the grip safety and he somehow got the trigger pulled. I was not there and don't know the true circumstances. (I tend to be skeptical of incidents like this)

This may or may not conflict with your statement. I would say the trigger finger and the brain are the only safeties that matter.

My 1911's have their grip safeties pinned, and I always use the thumb safety but I don't trust it.

I too would be skeptical of a story like this. IMO this does not conflict my reasoning if true because carrying in a mannor that disengages the grip safety either by pinning or a strap on the holster negates its use. Personally I carry my 1911 condition one with none of the safeties disabled.

A good holster and good Four Rules discipline are the best safeties. NEVER rely on a safety for safety.