Boo ****ing hoo. I bet you don't have a problem with the cops being murdered with a rifle.
Wow, a BLM recruiting post right here on INGO!
Boo ****ing hoo. I bet you don't have a problem with the cops being murdered with a rifle.
Yeah, I can see the slippery slope, but it is so clear that there's little risk of actually falling down it.
This was a truly unique situation (hopefully). If Joebob Wifebeater is drunk and holed up in his double wide with his grandad's 12 gauge, I don't think the robobomber is going to be the go-to tactic.
If Joebob just shot a baker's dozen people and killed a few, admitted it, and threatened to do more, then... yeah, ok.
I don't care if there isn't a safer option. Hold the bunker with guns drawn. It's not like police have never encountered a bunkered shooter before. Again, our police are not a military force. They shouldn't even have access to some of the MRAPs, etc... that they have been getting their hands on. It's absolute ridiculousness. Again, this is not Afghanistan. Hell, next time, let's just drop a Tomahawk missile on the bunkered shooter. Stupidity is what this is. If the police force is not enough without military weaponry (tanks, bombs, missiles, etc...) they need to call in the national guard or some other ACTUAL military force. Cops, as much as some of them want to be, are NOT the military, and this is NOT ok. I'm 100% not OK with police having and utilizing weapons beyond what the public is allowed to own.
So the shooters were black people? AND BLM members?
Boo ****ing hoo. I bet you don't have a problem with the cops being murdered with a rifle.
Police don't have grenades. They used supplies available to EOD. And I'll say it again: boo ****ing hoo.
I remember when Frank seemed to be an intelligent and reasonable Officer. Over the years he has descended to this state. Frank, really, you should check yourself. Talk to someone, please. It shows, only you can't see it
For the record I have seen no post advocating shooting police officers.
Boo ****ing hoo. I bet you don't have a problem with the cops being murdered with a rifle.
Police don't have grenades. They used supplies available to EOD. And I'll say it again: boo ****ing hoo.
Little more info.
The suspect asked for a cell phone. The phone the police provided was the explosive.
The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a rifle is a good [STRIKE]guy [/STRIKE] robot with a.... bomb.
This may come as a total shock to some of you but police departments have had access to explosives for decades. They typically serve two purposes, explosive breaching (like in Orlando) and bomb detonation. In spite of the fact this crap has been around for decades the police have somehow managed to not start building bombs and blowing **** up on a regular basis.
When we say bomb what are we talking about? Did they bring the building down on him? If we are talking about a shaped charge that was used to explosively remove the doors of this guy's hiding hole and in the process the blast killed him, so what. I prefer an explosive device of some sort then me be the first one through that door with a known armed suspect waiting to take out more officers, body armor or not. If you remember during the Orlando Shooter event, explosives were used to punch a hole in the wall to both get at the shooter and get hostages out.
Dallas had a lot in common with Afghanistan last night. I'm sure the 5 dead cops can't tell a difference.
Don't confuse them with facts. Just let them live in their own perfect little worlds.
I am not questioning your belief in the truthfulness of your position, but you also have to remember that this is the same bill of goods (i.e., for use only in rare and exceptional situations) we were sold with no-knock warrant service, use of SWAT teams to serve warrants, and asset forfeiture. I am not buying it (again).
So, we're supposed to fight another peaceful war with rules?Nope. 100% not ok with police utilizing bombs. This is not Afghanistan, and our police are not a military force.
What exactly did it have in common?
i was under the impression he worked alone and was not with blmBLM decided to declare war.
They decided to bring the weapons and tactics of warfare to the fight. What do you expect?