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    2A_Tom

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    IANAL, I think that the rule of law is that nothing is safe from a duly processed warrant.

    Police can not search your cell phone, hard drive or residence without a warrant.

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
     

    jamil

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    IANAL, I think that the rule of law is that nothing is safe from a duly processed warrant.

    Police can not search your cell phone, hard drive or residence without a warrant.

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    Is allowing entry witnessing against one's self? INGO Lawyers, don't laugh too hard. I'm just asking a question. I think if I'm served a warrant to search my house or car, or hard drive, or phone, I should be able to say, whatev's but I don't have to help you. Of course the consequences of that is a destroyed door, or lock, or phone or whatever, and I shouldn't expect to see that hard drive again in working condition, even after the authorities have broken the encryption and don't find anything incriminating.
     

    HoughMade

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    Is allowing entry witnessing against one's self? INGO Lawyers, don't laugh too hard. I'm just asking a question. I think if I'm served a warrant to search my house or car, or hard drive, or phone, I should be able to say, whatev's but I don't have to help you. Of course the consequences of that is a destroyed door, or lock, or phone or whatever, and I shouldn't expect to see that hard drive again in working condition, even after the authorities have broken the encryption and don't find anything incriminating.

    Locks, they will cut off. Doors will be opened by whatever means necessary. Encryption, in some circumstances, may have only "one way" in, requiring "cooperation". Whether this "cooperation" can be be compelled (yes, yes, then it isn't cooperation), under what circumstances and with what consequences is still a matter being worked out in the courts.

    The chances of "cooperation" being compelled increase as the means of gaining access decrease.
     

    2A_Tom

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    The fifth only protects your mind. All records are subject to warrant. If it is encrypted and you do not honor the warrant you ate in contempt.

    Again, IANAL.
     

    Timjoebillybob

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    The fifth only protects your mind. All records are subject to warrant. If it is encrypted and you do not honor the warrant you ate in contempt.

    Again, IANAL.

    IANAL, but I'll disagree. The info needed is in your mind. They can get a warrant to search your car, but IMO you don't have to tell them where you parked it...

    And speaking of warrants. This one seems a bit... Excessive?
    The judge signed a warrant for the info of any subscribers or users of google who searched for 4 variations of a guys name.
    https://tonywebster.com/2017/03/minnesota-search-warrant-anyone-who-googled/
     

    ArcadiaGP

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    Are you ****ing kidding me, CNN?

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