Anyone ever broken the safety on their 1911?

[philbert001]

How big is your tub, and how far did you move the frame rails in?

 

[churchmouse]

Total back half. We built the frame in house. We did all the interior and hung the quarters and new sheet metal up front. The car was a total we drug out of a field in Wisconson. Tires are 14WX32's and room behind them. Narrowed ford with Strange pieces.

 

[Pughead]

Not sure what Bedazzled 1911s and Camaros have in common.......but nice cars.

 

[churchmouse]

Not sure what Bedazzled 1911s and Camaros have in common.......but nice cars.

Just a reference to projects and how some folks look at a turd and see a be-jeweled master piece while the guy next to him is still seeing a turd.....

 

[philbert001]

Just a reference to projects and how some folks look at a turd and see a be-jeweled master piece while the guy next to him is still seeing a turd.....

Yup! And corvettes are for old men!

 

[88E30M50]

Apples and oranges friend! A more fitting analogy would be a 69 Camaro, straight 6, VS a 69 camaro SS396! Same platform, but one will cost a ton, right outa the gate, and the other can be built, a piece at a time, if need be, and will perform just as well, if not better!

You're comparing a Jennings .22, to a high end 1911, and that's clearly not the case!

Perhaps YOUR skill will net you a Chevette...

I think that is where your argument stumbles. If you start with an Ed Brown that is filled with RIA parts and you fit all new Ed Brown parts to it, you'll have an Ed Brown when you are done, assuming you are skilled at fitting parts. But, if you start with an RIA and fill it with Ed Brown parts, you still have an RIA filled with Ed Brown parts. The frame and slide quality are important to the final result. I'm totally there with you on enjoyment of the process, but I have no illusions of my tweaked Remington being the same as a Wilson Combat. My frame is still a cast frame. Now, when you get down to the function, I think I can build a pistol out of lower end components that will exceed my ability to use it and I'm happy with that.

I think that for 95% of 1911 users, myself included, the sub-$1500 1911 is perfectly fine. Like a good cigar, some can appreciate them and to them they are worth every penny. I get as much out of a $6 cigar as any other, so the money for a really good cigar would probably be lost on me. I can appreciate a really nice 1911 but for now, I'm satisfied with what I have and what I've cobbed together. But, in the end, they are all 1911s and I've yet to see one I did not like except maybe the one that looked like it had a melt treatment done with a chainsaw and belt sander.

 

[philbert001]

I think that is where your argument stumbles. If you start with an Ed Brown that is filled with RIA parts and you fit all new Ed Brown parts to it, you'll have an Ed Brown when you are done, assuming you are skilled at fitting parts. But, if you start with an RIA and fill it with Ed Brown parts, you still have an RIA filled with Ed Brown parts. The frame and slide quality are important to the final result. I'm totally there with you on enjoyment of the process, but I have no illusions of my tweaked Remington being the same as a Wilson Combat. My frame is still a cast frame. Now, when you get down to the function, I think I can build a pistol out of lower end components that will exceed my ability to use it and I'm happy with that.

I think that for 95% of 1911 users, myself included, the sub-$1500 1911 is perfectly fine. Like a good cigar, some can appreciate them and to them they are worth every penny. I get as much out of a $6 cigar as any other, so the money for a really good cigar would probably be lost on me. I can appreciate a really nice 1911 but for now, I'm satisfied with what I have and what I've cobbed together. But, in the end, they are all 1911s and I've yet to see one I did not like except maybe the one that looked like it had a melt treatment done with a chainsaw and belt sander.

I enjoy the tinkering, and perhaps am a little defensive! If somebody wants to let me run their $5000 1911, maybe you can change my mind!

In my price range and skillset, as well as my shooting and smithing abilities, I'm perfectly happy to start with a well fit cast frame and slide, and tinker from there! Anybody with an Ed Brown wanna loan it to me and change my mind!? No? Then let me have my POS 1911 to build, and you stay up there on your high horse!

 

[philbert001]

(BTW, I saw that melt job, of which you speak, and I died a little!)

 

[Pughead]

I think that is where your argument stumbles. If you start with an Ed Brown that is filled with RIA parts and you fit all new Ed Brown parts to it, you'll have an Ed Brown when you are done, assuming you are skilled at fitting parts. But, if you start with an RIA and fill it with Ed Brown parts, you still have an RIA filled with Ed Brown parts. The frame and slide quality are important to the final result. I'm totally there with you on enjoyment of the process, but I have no illusions of my tweaked Remington being the same as a Wilson Combat. My frame is still a cast frame. Now, when you get down to the function, I think I can build a pistol out of lower end components that will exceed my ability to use it and I'm happy with that.

I think that for 95% of 1911 users, myself included, the sub-$1500 1911 is perfectly fine. Like a good cigar, some can appreciate them and to them they are worth every penny. I get as much out of a $6 cigar as any other, so the money for a really good cigar would probably be lost on me. I can appreciate a really nice 1911 but for now, I'm satisfied with what I have and what I've cobbed together. But, in the end, they are all 1911s and I've yet to see one I did not like except maybe the one that looked like it had a melt treatment done with a chainsaw and belt sander.

Having handled and fired the gun in question I can guarantee if it were placed in your hand you'd guess it's value in the $2000 range. (And by "your hand" I mean anyone familiar with 1911s)

 

[philbert001]

Having handled and fired the gun in question I can guarantee if it were placed in your hand you'd guess it's value in the $2000 range. (And by "your hand" I mean anyone familiar with 1911s)

Maybe not the 2K range, but I'd put it up against any Springer or Colt I've handled or fired for sure!

 

[churchmouse]

Maybe not the 2K range, but I'd put it up against any Springer or Colt I've handled or fired for sure!

Next time you get to Indy PM me and we will do the range to see.

Then we will do some beer and boobies.....

 

[philbert001]

Next time you get to Indy PM me and we will do the range to see.

Then we will do some beer and boobies.....

Beer and boobies may be worth going to the, "Big City!"

 

[1911ly]

I can't believe how many people hate Philippino 1911's I think most that hate them have never shot one. If they have they've probably shot one that hasn't been maintained. Or was hacked with a bubba trigger job. I'd love to have a Ed Brown. I just can't justify it. I can afford it but I would learn nothing if I bought one.

I have added what I like to my "cheapy" I have shot the crap out of it. I expect something will fail. When it does I'll do what Philbert001 did. I'll replace the parts with better. I won't pitch it till the frame to slide fit is shot or I bust the frame. I just stripped the gun down for a through cleaning. Slide to frame fit is awesome. No Peening on the frame from the slide. Other then finish wear the gun is still good to go. Over 20k rounds and still going strong. I need to have the frame and slide refinish. The 4 years of holster wear is showing. I love the old gun. I might buy a Ed Brown some day but I will feel bad when the finish wears off my 3k_ gun. I don't feel bad about the wear on my cheapy.

Rock on with your 1911 Phil! We'll get together this summer and have a shoot out!

 

[bwframe]

Having handled and fired the gun in question I can guarantee if it were placed in your hand you'd guess it's value in the $2000 range. (And by "your hand" I mean anyone familiar with 1911s)

Maybe not the 2K range, but I'd put it up against any Springer or Colt I've handled or fired for sure!

Punching pretty holes with a pretty gun is one thing. Getting one to run flawlessly enough to produce consistant solid match results is another. The timer turns a lot of pretty guns into safe queens and classified adds.

 

[1911ly]

Booby's and beer,count me in but I'll bring some Southern Comfort to replace the beer

 

[philbert001]

I can't believe how many people hate Philippino 1911's I think most that hate them have never shot one. If they have they've probably shot one that hasn't been maintained. Or was hacked with a bubba trigger job. I'd love to have a Ed Brown. I just can't justify it. I can afford it but I would learn nothing if I bought one.

I have added what I like to my "cheapy" I have shot the crap out of it. I expect something will fail. When it does I'll do what Philbert001 did. I'll replace the parts with better. I won't pitch it till the frame to slide fit is shot or I bust the frame. I just stripped the gun down for a through cleaning. Slide to frame fit is awesome. No Peening on the frame from the slide. Other then finish wear the gun is still good to go. Over 20k rounds and still going strong. I need to have the frame and slide refinish. The 4 years of holster wear is showing. I love the old gun. I might buy a Ed Brown some day but I will feel bad when the finish wears off my 3k_ gun. I don't feel bad about the wear on my cheapy.

Rock on with your 1911 Phil! We'll get together this summer and have a shoot out!

Amen Brother!

 

[philbert001]

Punching pretty holes with a pretty gun is one thing. Getting one to run flawlessly enough to produce consistant solid match results is another. The timer turns a lot of pretty guns into safe queens and classified adds.

Amen! I doubt I'm good enough for "Solid" match results, but If I can run a gun hard without malfunction, then what is it again that makes a $3k gun better!? Or a $1000 gun, for that matter! Had I said that my Springer RO broke the safety, would this thread have even made it to page 3? I think not!

 

[philbert001]

Booby's and beer,count me in but I'll bring some Southern Comfort to replace the beer

Might have to leave the boys at home, and don't worry, we have a pull out sofa for you!

 

[1911ly]

Might have to leave the boys at home, and don't worry, we have a pull out sofa for you!

burp... np ty

 

[Pughead]

Maybe not the 2K range, but I'd put it up against any Springer or Colt I've handled or fired for sure!

When we compared yours with that custom 1911 from that Indiana outfit with the 2k + price tag I remember both of us leaving less than impressed.