Another "victimless crime"

[Woobie]

Coffee doesn't need to melt steel, only weaken it.

I once caused 3 steel thermoses to collapse and only two of them contained any coffee.

 

[Lelliott8]

Coffee doesn't need to melt steel, only weaken it.

I once caused 3 steel thermoses to collapse and only two of them contained any coffee.

I'm sure whoever poured that coffee will get someone to investigate why the thermoses collapsed.

 

[ATM]

I'm sure whoever poured that coffee will get someone to investigate why the thermoses collapsed.

The investigation was complete - they found no evidence of carrot juice.

 

[Lelliott8]

The investigation was complete - they found no evidence of carrot juice.

Oh good! But wait a minute, something isn't right about this... maybe we should ask questions about this carrot juice thing.

 

[ATM]

Oh good! But wait a minute, something isn't right about this... maybe we should ask questions about this carrot juice thing.

No. What we need are wars on coffee and heroin. Exploding thermoses and addicts are the victims here.

 

[seedubs1]

This. There's already laws against what happened. As always, laws don't stop stupid people from doing stupid things. There's already laws against child neglect. For example, it would be illegal for me to get so dang blacked out drunk while I'm the only caregiver to an infant due to child neglect laws. Yet there's no public outcry to make alcohol illegal.

Not only that, drug overdoses would go down if we legalized drugs. These overdoses are because addicts don't know 100% what they're putting in their bodies. If drugs were legal and regulated, they would know the consistency of what they were injecting and wouldn't overdose with the ridiculous frequency that is happening today due to unknown drug strength.

The war on drugs needs to end. It does not work.

While tragic, the crime was not drug use but neglect of an infant.

Poor choices can have far reaching consequences, but not all of those choices need be taken by threat of force from everyone.

 

[churchmouse]

This. There's already laws against what happened. As always, laws don't stop stupid people from doing stupid things. There's already laws against child neglect. For example, it would be illegal for me to get so dang blacked out drunk while I'm the only caregiver to an infant due to child neglect laws. Yet there's no public outcry to make alcohol illegal.

Not only that, drug overdoses would go down if we legalized drugs. These overdoses are because addicts don't know 100% what they're putting in their bodies. If drugs were legal and regulated, they would know the consistency of what they were injecting and wouldn't overdose with the ridiculous frequency that is happening today due to unknown drug strength.

The war on drugs needs to end. It does not work.

Possibly reduces OD rate but take into consideration the idiots we labeled "Starship Troopers" back in the day.
These people could never get high (or low) enough. They were the dick danger idiots of my day. Always looking for something to swallow in their search to achieve orbit.

 

[seedubs1]

Idiots are going to idiot no matter what. Drug addicts and alcohol addicts are no different in this respect. Neither should be allowed to raise children, and social services should be called for child neglect.

Possibly reduces OD rate but take into consideration the idiots we labeled "Starship Troopers" back in the day.
These people could never get high (or low) enough. They were the dick danger idiots of my day. Always looking for something to swallow in their search to achieve orbit.

 

[hoosierdoc]

Um... no. Vices are not crimes. If you know you're buying heroin from them, we couldn't even charge them with fraud - regardless of any crimes committed under the influence of the product you purchased from them.

So you buy "heroin" and get heroin+fentanyl and die. No fraud?

 

[churchmouse]

Idiots are going to idiot no matter what. Drug addicts and alcohol addicts are no different in this respect. Neither should be allowed to raise children, and social services should be called for child neglect.

Another state agency that has been very lax I its mandate

 

[Bigtanker]

We should execute speeders on the spot.

amiright?
Speeding isnt a victimless crime.

Only in Ohio.

 

[hoosierdoc]

Only in Ohio.

hard to speed in OH without getting nailed. No warnings either

 

[ATM]

So you buy "heroin" and get heroin+fentanyl and die. No fraud?

That might be fraud. It might even be a real crime.

But, why change the subject?

 

[Alpo]

Someone dies in the supply chain of cocaine en route from Columbia to your nose. Explain to me how your hands are clean.

 

[hoosierdoc]

That might be fraud. It might even be a real crime.

But, why change the subject?

Because the deaths tend to be from heroin mixed with fenantyl

not changing the subject, just educating you

http://www.drugfree.org/news-servic...aced-heroin-overdose-deaths-surge-nationwide/

 

[ATM]

Because the deaths tend to be from heroin mixed with fenantyl

not changing the subject, just educating you

DEA Issues Alert on Fentanyl-Laced Heroin as Overdose Deaths Surge Nationwide - Partnership for Drug-Free Kids

If someone knowingly contaminates a product, that may be its own fraud or crime, yet unrelated to the desired product being prohibited or not.

 

[Woobie]

Someone dies in the supply chain of cocaine en route from Columbia to your nose. Explain to me how your hands are clean.

Someone dies because there is a war. Explain to me how your hands are clean, since you support the perpetuation of the war.

Deceiminalization knocks the legs legs out from under the cartels. There isn't this amount of violence associated with the legitimate trade between us and our southern neighbors. End the war, and watch the violence decline.

 

[Woobie]

So you buy "heroin" and get heroin+fentanyl and die. No fraud?

Absolutely. Charge them with fraud. Charge them with murder, too.

 

[ATM]

Someone dies in the supply chain of cocaine en route from Columbia to your nose. Explain to me how your hands are clean.

My hands did not make that product supply and distribution chain more dangerous than it would naturally be without prohibition.

My hands did not artificially limit healthy and open competition, granting a monopoly niche and absurd profits to the most ruthless criminal elements.

The State wants it this way, not addicts/consumers.

 

[Alpo]

If you use drugs knowing that murders occur in the process, you are guilty of felony murder, aren't you?

Woobie? You're being aggressive for no reason.