Active shooter situation at school in Parkland, FL; reports of victims

[churchmouse]

You're the last one to know...

I feel so...........alone............

 

[2A_Tom]

Wow. I believe T Lex has become or is Kut.

Careful now!

 

[actaeon277]

Because someone is on a plane that loses control and almost crashes, does not make that person an expert to determine what went wrong and what needs to be done.
It makes them an expert on being ONE PERSON in a group that almost crashes.

Now, it might cause that person to do research. Study aerodynamics, mechanics and electrical instrumentation & control systems. He might then move on to become a knowledgeable person in the field of what causes plane crashes. But only after that person has accumulated knowledge. Until then it is merely incentive.

 

[Dead Duck]

I'm with Actaeon. BAN AIRPLANES!

 

[Vigilant]

I feel so...........alone............

Reminds you of those days before “let there be light”, huh?

 

[churchmouse]

Reminds you of those days before “let there be light”, huh?

Kinda

 

[jamil]

Wow. I see I missed a lot in this thread. Or not. Depending on perception.

 

[Trigger Time]

Heard something on Hannity tonight that got me thinking. Does a county sherriff have the ability to deputize civilians like a posse?
Could this be an answer to arming individuals in our schools? Retired cops/veterans/civilians ?

 

[KMaC]

Arguably, they've spent more money on that than any other political contributor (I think big pharma is the only group that's spent more, but I could be wrong).

The NRA has spent $203.2M for political causes since 1998.
In the 2016 election alone Banking interest PACs contributed $1.1BILLION, Labor unions contributed $298M, Lawyers contributed $257M (just to keep this in familiar territory).
Many interest groups spent far more in just the 2016 election than the NRA has spent in 20 years.

 

[bwframe]

The NRA has spent $203.2M for political causes since 1998.
In the 2016 election alone Banking interest PACs contributed $1.1BILLION, Labor unions contributed $298M, Lawyers contributed $257M (just to keep this in familiar territory).
Many interest groups spent far more in just the 2016 election than the NRA has spent in 20 years.

 

[Tanfodude]

The NRA has spent $203.2M for political causes since 1998.
In the 2016 election alone Banking interest PACs contributed $1.1BILLION, Labor unions contributed $298M, Lawyers contributed $257M (just to keep this in familiar territory).
Many interest groups spent far more in just the 2016 election than the NRA has spent in 20 years.

Where'd you get this info if you don't mind me asking?

 

[churchmouse]

Where'd you get this info if you don't mind me asking?

I saw this in a link that was a sight that tracks this and yes that is the number that listed. NRA is not a major player at least not by comparison.
According to that same sight only 11% or so went directly to individuals.

 

[MCgrease08]

Where'd you get this info if you don't mind me asking?

Open Secrets dot org. Lots of ways to slice, dice, compare political donations from organizations and special interest groups.

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000082

 

[KMaC]

Where'd you get this info if you don't mind me asking?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et9R6Ajbguk
At about 8:30 mark he shows a chart of political spending.

 

[churchmouse]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et9R6Ajbguk
At about 8:30 mark he shows a chart of political spending.

The leftists snowflakes (Yes T lex, I called them snowflakes) need to review some of this data.

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

Because someone is on a plane that loses control and almost crashes, does not make that person an expert to determine what went wrong and what needs to be done.

That's true, but if we were to only let truly knowledgeable and educated people speak on any given subject, the silence would be deafening.

And, if we only let truly knowledgeable and educated people vote, there'd be, like 12 people at the polls.

If you think that there should be qualifiers for who gets to say what about the 2nd Amendment, I suggest that you skip back up to the 1st and give that a read.

 

[chipbennett]

That's true, but if we were to only let truly knowledgeable and educated people speak on any given subject, the silence would be deafening.

And, if we only let truly knowledgeable and educated people vote, there'd be, like 12 people at the polls.

If you think that there should be qualifiers for who gets to say what about the 2nd Amendment, I suggest that you skip back up to the 1st and give that a read.

That's not being argued here. At argument is the imprimatur of expertise and moral authority being conferred upon some, based on their appeal-to-emotion "victim" status.

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

At argument is the imprimatur of expertise and moral authority being conferred upon some, based on their appeal-to-emotion "victim" status.

I guess, then, I'm questioning the necessity of that argument.

 

[chipbennett]

I guess, then, I'm questioning the necessity of that argument.

Haven't you noticed? That imprimatur of expertise and moral authority is then used to justify a national platform for the speaker, and to assert that his message is sacrosanct, and therefore unassailable. It is further used to castigate, or silence, any attempt by others to counter that message.

 

[BugI02]

I saw this in a link that was a sight that tracks this and yes that is the number that listed. NRA is not a major player at least not by comparison.
According to that same sight only 11% or so went directly to individuals.

It's not the NRA's money politicians fear, it's the 5 million+ energized likely voters who turn out for elections at all levels. The only thing a politician cares about more than money is maintaining a place at the trough. You make them choose between the two and they'll reluctantly align with their constituents

ETA: A few years ago when water was in such short supply in Cali, I thought we might see this conflict played out, because so many Cali pols get there money from big agriculture but their votes from the cities and they were approaching a time when they would need to choose. My money was on them choosing to appease the masses b ut then they got a bunch of rain and the crisis faded