A New .45 Project for Deer Season

[stlaser]

Any further updates?

 

[redneckmedic]

Good write up... I would Call it the 45 Libertarian... since its really just a 45-70 but with less government.

 

[indygunguy]

Good write up... I would Call it the 45 Libertarian... since its really just a 45-70 but with less government.

BRILLIANT!

 

[Aszerigan]

Good write up... I would Call it the 45 Libertarian... since its really just a 45-70 but with less government.

Ok, that's the best one I've heard yet. Kudos to you !!

 

[Aszerigan]

Actually, the 325gr FTX bullet is designed with two crimp grooves.

I wish they were. The .458cal 325gn Flextips, despite what the catalog says, only have one cannelure. The Barnes have two pressure relief grooves, but the ogive is too long.

 

[Broom_jm]

I wish they were. The .458cal 325gn Flextips, despite what the catalog says, only have one cannelure. The Barnes have two pressure relief grooves, but the ogive is too long.

OK, I was fooled by the picture they show online.

I think you're on the right track with the longer, heavier bullets, anyway. The FTX bullets in calibers larger than 35 really don't make much difference, in terms of ballistic performance...they just cost more.

 

[SSGSAD]

Good write up... I would Call it the 45 Libertarian... since its really just a 45-70 but with less government.

REP. SENT !!!!!

 

[Aszerigan]

Good write up... I would Call it the 45 Libertarian... since its really just a 45-70 but with less government.

Ok... I'm still laughing at this.

 

[Broom_jm]

Good write up... I would Call it the 45 Libertarian... since its really just a 45-70 but with less government.

It looks like the name might "stick"...that's what I called it on my thread on Indiana-legal deer rifle cartridges/wildcats.

 

[redneckmedic]

It looks like the name might "stick"...that's what I called it on my thread on Indiana-legal deer rifle cartridges/wildcats.

All royalties can be paid as a gift to PayPal account redneckmedic1@gmail.com

 

[stlaser]

Aszerigan, sent you a PM about a week ago. please check and get back to me. Thanks Shawn

 

[Wesley929]

Good write up... I would Call it the 45 Libertarian... since its really just a 45-70 but with less government.

My 2nd child is due April 30th next year. You have any other names as awesome as this one floating around in your head you let me know.

Rep to you.

 

[djones]

Crimp?

How are you crimping this shortened round for use in a tubular magazine?

 

[Broom_jm]

How are you crimping this shortened round for use in a tubular magazine?

NOTE: THE RELOADING INFORMATION DISCUSSED IN THIS THREAD IS NOT INTENDED FOR GENERAL PURPOSE USE. IT WAS FOUND TO BE SAFE IN THE SINGLE-SHOT RIFLE USED FOR TESTING, BUT IS NOT MEANT FOR USE IN OTHER RIFLES CHAMBERED FOR THE 45/70 CALIBER.

With that out of the way, I'm not sure how/if Andrew is crimping these loads. Please do not use them in a lever-action rifle without carefully working up from safe minimums. The loads expressed in this threads were put together expressly for the stronger H&R action. I would not personally use them in anything other than an H&R SB2 or a Ruger #1.

 

[djones]

NOTE: THE RELOADING INFORMATION DISCUSSED IN THIS THREAD IS NOT INTENDED FOR GENERAL PURPOSE USE. IT WAS FOUND TO BE SAFE IN THE SINGLE-SHOT RIFLE USED FOR TESTING, BUT IS NOT MEANT FOR USE IN OTHER RIFLES CHAMBERED FOR THE 45/70 CALIBER.

With that out of the way, I'm not sure how/if Andrew is crimping these loads. Please do not use them in a lever-action rifle without carefully working up from safe minimums. The loads expressed in this threads were put together expressly for the stronger H&R action. I would not personally use them in anything other than an H&R SB2 or a Ruger #1.

Thank you for the heads up.

 

[Oppugnall]

Any update to this project? Already have 458 socom, always wanted a lever and would be nice to share same bullets.

 

[Tom Threetoes]

djones and others have loaded and successfully used a shortened 45-70 to harvest a deer. There should be a lengthly topic on the subject just a few pages back.

 

[Buck67]

This cartridge sounds somewhat like the obsolete 11.7 X 56R cartridge that I reload for my original 1874 Danish Rolling Block. I shorten a 45/70 case to 2.101" and load it with 60 grains of 1.5F black powder and a 500 grain .458 lead bullet. This gives me an OAL of 2.85". Sometimes the rim is a bit too wide and I have to turn the rim down, but it works fine. I don't need to crimp the case after loading because it is blackpowder and a single shot. I can ring gongs at 500 meters with it so I am happy with the performance. With your understanding of the DNR laws, would this be a legal round to use to hunt deer in Indiana now?

 

[kludge]

2.101" is too long to be legal. 1.8" is the max case length for deer season.

 

[Aszerigan]

I tried it. It worked well in my 1895 Marlin. Due to the shortened cases, you get 5+1 instead of 4+1.