5 Officers shot during drug raid

[lrahm]

I know that meth is just one of many drugs but, has anyone looked at what goes into the finished product?

 

[Bunnykid68]

I know that meth is just one of many drugs but, has anyone looked at what goes into the finished product?

Actually, I have not. DO they still need anhydrous to make it?

 

[lrahm]

Depending upon thetype of cook, here are a few.

Alcohol - Gasoline additives or Rubbing Alcohol
Ether (starting fluid)
Benzene
Paint thinner
Freon
Acetone
Chloroform
Camp stove fuel
Anhydrous ammonia
White gasoline
Pheynl-2-Propane
Phenylacetone
Phenylpropanolamine
Rock, table or Epsom salt
Iodine crystals
Red Phosphorous
Toluene (found in brake cleaner)
Red Devil Lye
Drain cleaner
Muraitic acid
Battery acid
Lithium from batteries
Sodium metal
Ephedrine
Cold tablets
Diet aids
Iodine
Bronchodialators
Energy boosters

 

[Dead Duck]

I know that meth is just one of many drugs but, has anyone looked at what goes into the finished product?

If they would use Bacon Oil, they'd have even more customers.

Most "Chemical" drugs use unpronounceable ingredients that can also strip paint off your car.
Oh Ya - That's what I want to put in my body.
It's all poison to us humans so why on earth people want to melt themselves in to a mushy ooze is beyond me.

 

[jedi]

If they would use Bacon Oil, they'd have even more customers.

Most "Chemical" drugs use unpronounceable ingredients that can also strip paint off your car.
Oh Ya - That's what I want to put in my body.
It's all poison to us humans so why on earth people want to melt themselves in to a mushy ooze is beyond me.

by that same token why do we allow soda product?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LrHlkn6ZcQ


Yet we tax and allow those?

 

[Bunnykid68]

by that same token why do we allow soda product?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LrHlkn6ZcQ


Yet we tax and allow those?

I didnt see anything impressive in that video. Soapy water cleans off battery terminals as well.

 

[jedi]

It's all poison to us humans so why on earth people want to melt themselves in to a mushy ooze is beyond me.

I didnt see anything impressive in that video. Soapy water cleans off battery terminals as well.

Was trying to show you that we have legal poison's like pop that we seem to be Ok with & folks drink that will also cause issues as well they will turn them into mush just like the meth. Just a different mush.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Was trying to show you that we have legal poison's like pop that we seem to be Ok with & folks drink that will also cause issues as well they will turn them into mush just like the meth. Just a different mush.

I know, shoulda just put my 2 cents back in my pocket, but I was bored

 

[Benny]

Depending upon thetype of cook, here are a few.

Alcohol - Gasoline additives or Rubbing Alcohol
Ether (starting fluid)
Benzene
Paint thinner
Freon
Acetone
Chloroform
Camp stove fuel
Anhydrous ammonia
White gasoline
Pheynl-2-Propane
Phenylacetone
Phenylpropanolamine
Rock, table or Epsom salt
Iodine crystals
Red Phosphorous
Toluene (found in brake cleaner)
Red Devil Lye
Drain cleaner
Muraitic acid
Battery acid
Lithium from batteries
Sodium metal
Ephedrine
Cold tablets
Diet aids
Iodine
Bronchodialators
Energy boosters

Well, if you are trying to persuade me into trying meth, it isn't working.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Well, if you are trying to persuade me into trying meth, it isn't working.

No kidding. I got 4 on that list maybe 5, not sure if I am out of paint thinner though

 

[Expat]

Well, if you are trying to persuade me into trying meth, it isn't working.

Aren't you curious who the first guy was that thought mixing all that together and then ingesting it, was a good idea?

 

[Fargo]

For the record, I don't believe I was trolling. The whole situation is a damn shame, and could be avoided if so many weren't so anxious to tell others how to run their lives.

No, the whole thing could be avoided if drug dealers didn't murder police officers who are serving a valid search warrant issued on probable cause by a neutral and detached magistrate per the 4th Amendment.

It disgusts me how many people here want to assign blame for this murder to ANYONE or ANYTHING but the guy who pulled the trigger.

Joe

 

[Bunnykid68]

Aren't you curious who the first guy was that thought mixing all that together and then ingesting it, was a good idea?

Never thought about that. Was someone just shopping and drop all their stuff in a bucket my mistake and ended up with meth.

 

[Fargo]

Has a new story developed that I haven't seen?

How do we know he was a "bad guy?" All I've read is they kicked in the guy's door on suspicion of drugs and he shot 5 potential "bad guys." I haven't heard a word about if they knocked first, alerted who they were or even if the guy had anything illegal in his house.

If they busted down his door without knocking and he was a law-abiding citizen with nothing illegal in his possession, who is the bad guy/guys?

No sarcasm and no devil's advocate here...I think they are valid questions.

I get sick to my stomach thinking about how my life would change if a SWAT team busted down my door without knocking and alerting me of who they are.

Where are you getting that this was a "no-knock" or that the house was breached? I've never seen that anywhere.

This guy was already in trouble for beating his wife/girlfriend, it was when they were there for that that they found the first round of drugs.

This time, they had a warrant apparently secured in the fashion required by our constitution.

This isn't a "wrong house, innocent person" type event. This is right house, valid warrant supported by evidence and drug dealer who would rather die than go to prison as evidenced by him offing himself and his girl.

Joe

 

[Fargo]

Never thought about that. Was someone just shopping and drop all their stuff in a bucket my mistake and ended up with meth.

No, it was developed by the Japanese in the 1890's as a byproduct of an ephedrine reaction from what I understand.

It was used by their military and industrial complexes to boost productivity and fighting ability.

It was also widely distributed to and used by the U.S. forces in WW II and amphetamine use is still allowed by pilots under some circumstances.

Best,

JOe

 

[Bunnykid68]

The incident started around 6 p.m. Thursday. A SWAT team had arrived and a standoff continued through Thursday night, but Delaney said Friday that the bodies of the suspect and woman were found in the house where the shootings occurred.

Read more: Police chief weeks from retirement killed in New Hampshire drug bust shooting, 4 officers hurt | Fox News

 

[radonc73]

Depending upon thetype of cook, here are a few.

Alcohol - Gasoline additives or Rubbing Alcohol
Ether (starting fluid)
Benzene
Paint thinner
Freon
Acetone
Chloroform
Camp stove fuel
Anhydrous ammonia
White gasoline
Pheynl-2-Propane
Phenylacetone
Phenylpropanolamine
Rock, table or Epsom salt
Iodine crystals
Red Phosphorous
Toluene (found in brake cleaner)
Red Devil Lye
Drain cleaner
Muraitic acid
Battery acid
Lithium from batteries
Sodium metal
Ephedrine
Cold tablets
Diet aids
Iodine
Bronchodialators
Energy boosters

If we legalized it would Eli Lilly still need all of these ingrediesnts or would they just use the exact chemicals needed without what is it 5 gallons of toxins for every pound.
We also wouldn't have idiots making it in their trailer at the risk of explosions and toxins everywhere. Just my I do not do meth heck I am almost 40 no one I know does but anyone who thinks that they are going to completly stop meth or drugs in general is crazy.
As long as there is a market for drugs and in this case steroids there will be people selling it.

 

[Bunnykid68]

If we legalized it would Eli Lilly still need all of these ingrediesnts or would they just use the exact chemicals needed without what is it 5 gallons of toxins for every pound.
We also wouldn't have idiots making it in their trailer at the risk of explosions and toxins everywhere. Just my I do not do meth heck I am almost 40 no one I know does but anyone who thinks that they are going to completly stop meth or drugs in general is crazy.
As long as there is a market for drugs and in this case steroids there will be people selling it.

They would charge so much for it that people would still make it themselves.

 

[96firephoenix]

My friend is from NH, and this is the worst thing that has happened there in a long, long time according to him.

Godspeed Chief.

 

[radonc73]

I would say that on an industrial scale they could make it cheaper and safer than some tweeker making it from that list of ingredients in the trailer next to regular citizens.
The black market is more expensive b/c of the risk at every level.