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  • jamil

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    Heh, my wife thinks it's a waste of money and not an investment. She's convinced the US will eventually ban them and confiscate all my guns without compensation before I can recoup my investment.
     

    ViperJock

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    Between house and barn, I have 8400 sf. Not worried.

    Are you saying you'll never have a problem getting to your fridge? Economically speaking I've seen data that puts the rate of investment of high quality FA like an MP5 and M16 at 13% annually. That's pretty good. Of course, you'd have to keep it in good condition.... The problem is as mentioned above what if the USG decides to sudden take it away? Always a risk. Of course that may be no less likely than USG taking your 401k....
     

    hornadylnl

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    Are you saying you'll never have a problem getting to your fridge? Economically speaking I've seen data that puts the rate of investment of high quality FA like an MP5 and M16 at 13% annually. That's pretty good. Of course, you'd have to keep it in good condition.... The problem is as mentioned above what if the USG decides to sudden take it away? Always a risk. Of course that may be no less likely than USG taking your 401k....

    I don't have enough money to fill 8400sf.
     

    dieselrealtor

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    Are you saying you'll never have a problem getting to your fridge? Economically speaking I've seen data that puts the rate of investment of high quality FA like an MP5 and M16 at 13% annually. That's pretty good. Of course, you'd have to keep it in good condition.... The problem is as mentioned above what if the USG decides to sudden take it away? Always a risk. Of course that may be no less likely than USG taking your 401k....

    I think if this happens there are a high # across the country that will no longer be pristine, NIB, they will become heavily used & the value even higher.
     

    billt

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    Heh, my wife thinks it's a waste of money and not an investment. She's convinced the US will eventually ban them and confiscate all my guns without compensation before I can recoup my investment.

    15 years ago I wouldn't have said this. But today I totally believe you will see blood in the streets before that ever happens on any type of mass nationwide scale. Just look at the criminal disobedience you're seeing today in New York with the "Safe Act", and in Conn. People are getting totally fed up with this, along with the disrespect, arrogance, and lack of common sense of the liberal socialist, secular movement in this country. You can only push people so far before they feel there is nothing more to lose. And there are literally millions of Americans that feel that way about their firearms, and those who wish to take them.
     

    hornadylnl

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    15 years ago I wouldn't have said this. But today I totally believe you will see blood in the streets before that ever happens on any type of mass nationwide scale. Just look at the criminal disobedience you're seeing today in New York with the "Safe Act", and in Conn. People are getting totally fed up with this, along with the disrespect, arrogance, and lack of common sense of the liberal socialist, secular movement in this country. You can only push people so far before they feel there is nothing more to lose. And there are literally millions of Americans that feel that way about their firearms, and those who wish to take them.
    What makes you think New York and Connecticut will be the straw that breaks the camel's back? Post a picture here of a pistol with a forward pistol grip and see what happens. The law is the law crowd is strong.
     

    billt

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    What makes you think New York and Connecticut will be the straw that breaks the camel's back? Post a picture here of a pistol with a forward pistol grip and see what happens. The law is the law crowd is strong.

    I'm not saying they are, "the straw that breaks the camels back". I'm saying this is something you wouldn't have seen 15 or 20 years ago. This is building like a wave breaking into shore. When it comes to guns, the "law is the law" crowd seems to be the communist liberals. Call it "selective obedience". They are outraged when someone disobeys a firearms law, but embrace anyone who ignores a immigration law. Gun owners are far more passionate about holding on to their firearms, than liberals are about taking them away.
     

    hornadylnl

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    I'm not saying they are, "the straw that breaks the camels back". I'm saying this is something you wouldn't have seen 15 or 20 years ago. This is building like a wave breaking into shore. When it comes to guns, the "law is the law" crowd seems to be the communist liberals. Call it "selective obedience". They are outraged when someone disobeys a firearms law, but embrace anyone who ignores a immigration law. Gun owners are far more passionate about holding on to their firearms, than liberals are about taking them away.

    INGOers have threatened to report Armslisters for posting "illegal guns". One was a pistol with a forward pistol grip. There is also a lot of grumblings about classifieds sellers "dealing without a license". And in every such case, there are several who say that in order to protect what little gun rights we have left, we have to follow the law, regardless of how unconstitutional said laws are. Don't believe you have a friend in every gun owner.
     

    billt

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    Another thing you must factor in, is the tremendous resentment of the Obama Administration by the majority of white America. This is something that isn't talked about much, but it exists, and it exists HUGE. People are fed up with this arrogant, black communist, along with his henchmen like Holder & Co. It just isn't something they chat about around the water cooler. They feel betrayed by this ass hat. Yes, it's their fault because many of them helped put him in office. But you never hear whites bragging about voting for him today, the way you did at his inauguration back in 08.

    You can call it "racism", or tag it with any name you wish. The fact is it exists, and it is a tremendous factor. Perhaps things will calm down after he's gone. But there is still 3 years to go, and a lot of damage can be done on both sides in that time. I'm 61 years old, and I can honestly say I've never seen black white relations this bad in this country. Add to it the fact he is the most anti gun President in existence, and it's dynamite with a very short fuse.
     

    billt

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    INGOers have threatened to report Armslisters for posting "illegal guns". One was a pistol with a forward pistol grip. There is also a lot of grumblings about classifieds sellers "dealing without a license". And in every such case, there are several who say that in order to protect what little gun rights we have left, we have to follow the law, regardless of how unconstitutional said laws are. Don't believe you have a friend in every gun owner.

    Those people have always existed in the firearms world. I don't think they are any more of a threat today than they were 3 decades ago. Like Catholic priests, not every one is a gem.
     

    maverick5990

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    One more 22lr flipper thread that has gone totally off topic. I think it's time for someone to start another 'cause we haven't had enough already!
     

    Joe G

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    Heh, my wife thinks it's a waste of money and not an investment. She's convinced the US will eventually ban them and confiscate all my guns without compensation before I can recoup my investment.

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    jamil

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    30calmachinegunner

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    Fortunately we have been going through and putting a list together, part of that is conveying the value of them, she wasn't really shocked because I've always been upfront about the costs. I just need to figure out where there stashed.:dunno:
     

    jdmack79

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    I was cleaning off my reloading bench this afternoon and found so much bulk 22 that it filled a 50 cal can. I guess I'm a hoarder and a flipper for having a bunch of cans filled with 22 ammo. :rolleyes:

    I am a young guy in my mid 20's and have enough 22 to last me for well over a DECADE. If I prepared, then so could you. I'm so tired of hearing people complain about 22 ammo. The ONLY people than I have any sympathy for are people who just bought their first gun. Anyone who was a gun owner for very long has seen shortages in the past and could have speculated that they would happen again. After the 2008 shortages, I decided to buy ammo every single time that I set foot into Walmart and somehow that no makes me the bad guy. :dunno:
     

    jamil

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    I was cleaning off my reloading bench this afternoon and found so much bulk 22 that it filled a 50 cal can. I guess I'm a hoarder and a flipper for having a bunch of cans filled with 22 ammo. :rolleyes:

    I am a young guy in my mid 20's and have enough 22 to last me for well over a DECADE. If I prepared, then so could you. I'm so tired of hearing people complain about 22 ammo. The ONLY people than I have any sympathy for are people who just bought their first gun. Anyone who was a gun owner for very long has seen shortages in the past and could have speculated that they would happen again. After the 2008 shortages, I decided to buy ammo every single time that I set foot into Walmart and somehow that no makes me the bad guy. :dunno:

    I think every guy's a bad guy to someone.
     

    M4Madness

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    My Wal-Mart got in cases of both the Federal 550's and 500-round Lightnings last night. I showed up at 7:00 AM this morning, and was the only one there. Bought my three bricks and walked out. Both Columbus stores, Scottsburg, and Martinsville also had them this morning, and Bloomington had them yesterday morning.
     
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