[1A] The Free Speech Thread

[actaeon277]

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/nov/25/andy-ngo-suspended-twitter/
Andy Ngo suspended from Twitter.
He replied to a comment about a "wave of violence against transgenders".
He pointed out, there is no "wave".
And most of the violence against black transgenders, is done by black men.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

This really did sound better in its original German.

Angela Merkel calls for restrictions on “extreme speech” because it causes society to “no longer be free.”

 

[ArcadiaGP]

University opens online portal so students can report other students for offensive speech.

 

[actaeon277]

day by day, I feel like I fell asleep, and woke up in Nazi Germany.

 

[2A_Tom]

Crazy, ain't it?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

day by day, I feel like I fell asleep, and woke up in Nazi Germany.

Day by day I'm increasingly convinced that George Orwell was a prophet.

 

[T.Lex]

Day by day I'm increasingly convinced that George Orwell was a prophet.

So was Marx.

Karl.

Well, Groucho, too, in his own way.

 

[KLB]

day by day, I feel like I fell asleep, and woke up in Nazi Germany.

More like the USSR.

 

[BugI02]

day by day, I feel like I fell asleep, and woke up in [STRIKE]Nazi[/STRIKE] [East] Germany.

Fixy

 

[BugI02]

University opens online portal so students can report other students for offensive speech.

Is it called Student's Timely Activation of Safespace Infrastructure?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

A Stunning Vote Reversal in a Controversial First Amendment Case

“Surprise opinion” by 5th Cir. Judge Willett, who "has now changed his vote" in a case SCOTUS has been asked to review "and issued a full-throated defense of the idea that free speech covers even unruly protest”

 

[2A_Tom]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I disagree.

I do not believe that riot is covered in the ninth either.

 

[KLB]

I disagree.

I do not believe that riot is covered in the ninth either.

You think that an organizer should be held responsible for the actions of all of the people in a protest?

 

[chipbennett]

I disagree.

I do not believe that riot is covered in the ninth either.

From my very limited reading of this case, I don't think this question was under discussion.

It doesn't appear that Doe alleges that McKesson was responsible for the riot, through his words, actions, or otherwise. It appears that Doe alleges that McKesson was responsible for the harm that befell Doe, because Doe failed to stop the harmful actor.

I don't see how the argument is a first amendment matter, at all.

 

[2A_Tom]

A Stunning Vote Reversal in a Controversial First Amendment Case

“Surprise opinion” by 5th Cir. Judge Willett, who "has now changed his vote" in a case SCOTUS has been asked to review "and issued a full-throated defense of the idea that free speech covers even unruly protest”

I did not read the article, don't wish to waste the time, my post was in reference to GP's comment. I apologize.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

i know it's not technically 1a, but i'm in a wierd mood tonight

George Carlin on the 7 words

Edit: Obviously NSFW language

[video=youtube_share;kyBH5oNQOS0]https://youtu.be/kyBH5oNQOS0[/video]

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Wrongly arrested for racial slur, UConn students sue university over violation of First Amendment, court order

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Here's a big one.

The NYC Commission on Human Rights thinks it has the power to tell Prada what merchandise it can sell, and that they have to hire a diversity director, *subject to commission approval.*

https://reason.com/2020/02/05/prada-new-york-city-human-rights-commission-racist/

 

[actaeon277]

Here's a big one.

The NYC Commission on Human Rights thinks it has the power to tell Prada what merchandise it can sell, and that they have to hire a diversity director, *subject to commission approval.*

https://reason.com/2020/02/05/prada-new-york-city-human-rights-commission-racist/

Maybe companies should stop selling things to new york.

 

[jamil]

Maybe companies should stop selling things to new york.

NY is a really big market to have to stay out of. I think your solution is a practical solution on a certain scale. But when things reach the scale where it becomes a proposition of "take it or leave it", where leaving it is more costly than taking it. They do the thing that costs less. It's sort of using Capitalism's shortcomings against it to have power over these companies to get them to capitulate.

So when things become of the scale of NY, probably only way to defeat it is for an association of merchants to all leave. But it takes nearly all of them to do it in a way that hurts NY enough to pressure them to stop. And that's hard to do.