Official Trump Attempted Assassination at his Rally Thread

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  • Sylvain

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    In closed primary states some people will register with the opposite party than they prefer in order to try to get a weaker opponent in to face their preferred candidate.
    But there is a record of that vote and you can know for which party they voted for?
    That part seems strange to me.

    Can you still vote for the president and not be registered with any party for the primaries?
     
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    I just read a post on Facebook about an outfit called Explorer Charter Cruises out of Caseville, Michigan. Seems the owner posted something about how the sniper would have done the country a favor if he succeeded. I tried accessing the company website. It's shut down along with their FB page, and Yelp indicates they're investigating them due to "media activity."

    Outstanding! We need to see to it that these monsters get what they have coming to them.
    UPDATE: There are news stories on it now. The owner is claiming his account was hacked and that he did not make the post.
     

    Sylvain

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    I just read a post on Facebook about an outfit called Explorer Charter Cruises out of Caseville, Michigan. Seems the owner posted something about how the sniper would have done the country a favor if he succeeded. I tried accessing the company website. It's shut down along with their FB page, and Yelp indicates they're investigating them due to "media activity."

    Outstanding! We need to see to it that these monsters get what they have coming to them.

    I refuse to call that killer a "sniper" ... or even a shooter. :twocents:

    He did kill someone even if he misses Trump.
    Heck for all we know he was targeting the one person he killed.
    (I know that's far fetched).
     

    snorko

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    But there is a record of that vote and you can know for which party they voted for?
    That part seems strange to me.

    Can you still vote for the president and not be registered with any party for the primaries?
    I believe in some states the party affiliation is stated on the registration. In many of those cases a good number of voters register as independent.

    Indiana allows you to vote in primaries for whichever party you wish. Switching back and forth is not uncommon, especially if there is a weaker candidate. And yes, the primary vote part affiliation is public record.
     

    rhamersley

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    But there is a record of that vote and you can know for which party they voted for?
    That part seems strange to me.

    Can you still vote for the president and not be registered with any party for the primaries?
    Yes, you can still vote as long as you are registered with the Secretary of State as a voter.

    Basically in primaries (at least where I live), there are poll workers that check your ID against the voter rolls to see if you are registered. Once you get through that, they ask which party you would like the primary ballot for and then hand you a card. Another poll worker takes you to a machine, puts the card in and the ballot you wanted shows up on the screen. You mark the ballot (all computerized, basically push buttons), check that everything is correct on an attached "grocery store receipt" for lack of a better analogy, and push the big red "vote" button. Then you walk out and the worker takes the card back to be reprogrammed for someone else. So your vote is counted, but there is no traceability to a particular voter.
     

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    The threshold for approach or detention at an event like this is low. Yes, they absolutely can stop and question you for using a rangefinder. Open carry of rifles doesn't exist in rifle range of an event like this.

    Criminal charges are different, but yes they absolutely can approach you, question you, and turn you away. Many, many such interactions happen every day.
    New York search and frisk comes to mind.
     
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    UPDATE: There are news stories on it now. The owner is claiming his account was hacked and that he did not make the post.
    UPDATE TO THE UPDATE: He says he left his phone in a public restroom and went back later to retrieve it, and apparently that's when some miscreant posted in his name.

    The local chamber of commerce isn't buying it. They booted him, and cancellations for his charter service are pouring in.

    In other news, he says that back in third grade the dog actually DID eat his homework.
     

    actaeon277

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    But there is a record of that vote and you can know for which party they voted for?
    That part seems strange to me.

    Can you still vote for the president and not be registered with any party for the primaries?


    The Primary is voting for who a Party puts up for the vote.
    It is not the main vote. It's just for the party.

    It's like if you made a Party of your neighborhood.
    And you were putting someone up for President of France.
    But you could only afford one person.
    So your neighborhood would vote for who they're supporting.
    But that vote isn't the REAL vote. Just who you're putting up.
     

    printcraft

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    UPDATE TO THE UPDATE: He says he left his phone in a public restroom and went back later to retrieve it, and apparently that's when some miscreant posted in his name.

    The local chamber of commerce isn't buying it. They booted him, and cancellations for his charter service are pouring in.

    In other news, he says that back in third grade the dog actually DID eat his homework.

    Just that one post was made, then the miscreant didn't steal the phone, just put it down and walked away.
    I mean, that happens every day.

     

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    Yes, you can still vote as long as you are registered with the Secretary of State as a voter.

    Basically in primaries (at least where I live), there are poll workers that check your ID against the voter rolls to see if you are registered. Once you get through that, they ask which party you would like the primary ballot for and then hand you a card. Another poll worker takes you to a machine, puts the card in and the ballot you wanted shows up on the screen. You mark the ballot (all computerized, basically push buttons), check that everything is correct on an attached "grocery store receipt" for lack of a better analogy, and push the big red "vote" button. Then you walk out and the worker takes the card back to be reprogrammed for someone else. So your vote is counted, but there is no traceability to a particular voter.
    You forgot to mention that they then give you an “I Voted” sticker before you leave!
     

    Sylvain

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    Yes, you can still vote as long as you are registered with the Secretary of State as a voter.

    Basically in primaries (at least where I live), there are poll workers that check your ID against the voter rolls to see if you are registered. Once you get through that, they ask which party you would like the primary ballot for and then hand you a card. Another poll worker takes you to a machine, puts the card in and the ballot you wanted shows up on the screen. You mark the ballot (all computerized, basically push buttons), check that everything is correct on an attached "grocery store receipt" for lack of a better analogy, and push the big red "vote" button. Then you walk out and the worker takes the card back to be reprogrammed for someone else. So your vote is counted, but there is no traceability to a particular voter.
    Thanks.
    So that registration is different than the registration to vote for the main election?

    I assume not all 20 years old are registered for the primaries, no?
    It shows a particular interest in politics or is it normal?
     

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    No ladder, he climbed up an ac unit. That makes more sense to me than he carried a ladder in. Since he was also seen looking at roofs, it seems he did at least a little bit of scout work. Probably couldn’t believe there was no one on the roof and just went for it. From the video of him walking in the background, it looks like it would be plausible to get in between buildings and be “lost” for a bit. So, it seems he scouted, then went back for his rifle in a back pack? From what I have read, it seems the cops who interrupted him on the roof, and he pointed his rifle at them, may have hurried things and made him rush his shot. The more I read, and think I know, the more I lean towards utter incompetence and negligence, combined with complacency. Could be he was just a schuck who literally did walk in with a rifle in a back pack and climb on the roof. Who knows? Could be. I am leaning towards not a conspiracy, at least in the sense that he was “put up or helped” with it. Seems that way too many people would have to be in on it for it to be kept quiet. SS, local cops, state police. Somebody would talk.
     

    foszoe

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    The Primary is voting for who a Party puts up for the vote.
    It is not the main vote. It's just for the party.

    It's like if you made a Party of your neighborhood.
    And you were putting someone up for President of France.
    But you could only afford one person.
    So your neighborhood would vote for who they're supporting.
    But that vote isn't the REAL vote. Just who you're putting up.
    So the party is kinda like an HOA?
     

    rhamersley

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    Thanks.
    So that registration is different than the registration to vote for the main election?

    I assume not all 20 years old are registered for the primaries, no?
    It shows a particular interest in politics or is it normal?
    To vote in the main election (D vs R vs whatever else) you just have to be registered with the Secretary of State for your particular state, and not as a party member (at least here, lived in Indy all my life, don't know about other states). There are lots of kids that age registered because they ask if you want to register at license branches and other places, particularly in the presidential election years.
     
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