Woman With Pot of Boiling Water Shot Dead by Police

[Shadow01]

Not defending the officer or the actions, but at least the grand jury confirmed that throwing a pot of boiling water at an officer is not an actionable threat.

 

[gassprint1]

I guess if a cop comes on your property and you say to leave,...he won't leave and you get the garden hose...you'll be shot!

 

[Tryin']

I guess if a cop comes on your property and you say to leave,...he won't leave and you get the garden hose...you'll be shot!

What an ignorant statement.

 

[gassprint1]

What an ignorant statement.

Actually its not. Most police think because they have a badge and gun, then its ok to threaten and shoot someone for whatever reason. It's happened for far too long and accountability is slowly coming around.

 

[Tryin']

Actually its not. Most police think because they have a badge and gun, then its ok to threaten and shoot someone for whatever reason. It's happened for far too long and accountability is slowly coming around.

Doubling down on the ignorance. Bold strategy.

 

[cbhausen]

This could get good…

 

[Creedmoor]

This could get good…

Yep..

 

[phylodog]

I have big problems with that officer's actions based on only what was available on the video.

 

[Denny347]

I guess if a cop comes on your property and you say to leave,...he won't leave and you get the garden hose...you'll be shot!

Actually its not. Most police think because they have a badge and gun, then its ok to threaten and shoot someone for whatever reason. It's happened for far too long and accountability is slowly coming around.

You haven't a clue what MOST police officers think. Police rarely use force, even more rare, deadly force. Police use force about .1% of all interactions. You watch too much TV...

 

[rosejm]

I'm not sure I agree with the grand jury here...

Did he need to threaten her & pull his firearm because she picked up the pot of boiling water and took it to the sink? Probably not.
Did she need to "rebuke him in the name of Jesus" for those actions? Again, probably not.
She also didn't need to pick up the pot of boiling water a second time after she ducked.

Ask yourself this question: if she had a pot of acid, or gasoline would that change your opinion of the threat she posed?

We do seem to be missing a good deal of the initial context showing this woman wasn't in a clear mental state.

 

[BigRed]

I guess if a cop comes on your property and you say to leave,...he won't leave and you get the garden hose...you'll be shot!

I think you're gtg unless you rebuke the officer in the name of Jesus.

 

[BigRed]

Am I supposed to start looting and burning buildings now?

Has hog**** issued stand down orders yet?

Asking for a friend.

 

[racegunz]

Doubling down on the ignorance. Bold strategy.

Doesn’t seem ignorant given the related thread content.

 

[racegunz]

I'm not sure I agree with the grand jury here...

Did he need to threaten her & pull his firearm because she picked up the pot of boiling water and took it to the sink? Probably not.
Did she need to "rebuke him in the name of Jesus" for those actions? Again, probably not.
She also didn't need to pick up the pot of boiling water a second time after she ducked.

Ask yourself this question: if she had a pot of acid, or gasoline would that change your opinion of the threat she posed?

We do seem to be missing a good deal of the initial context showing this woman wasn't in a clear mental state.

So just shoot her?

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Some people shouldn't be cops. Some of them get to be cops anyway. Perhaps more of them today due to a lack of quality applicants vs vacancies. Perhaps this guy is one of them.

I don't know that it's Murder in Illinois, as I don't know their definition. Is it a criminal homicide of some type, regardless? Probably, though I'm not doing a deep dive into the whole event so maybe I'm wrong.

I don't know what their training is like, but I can guarantee you our department would say the officers did not utilize 'time, distance, and barriers'. As in safely back out, get something between you and the threat of hot water, and then negotiate from that position if the person is wanted for something. This assumes she's not an immediate threat to anyone else in the house if the officers back out.

 

[racegunz]

Some people shouldn't be cops. Some of them get to be cops anyway. Perhaps more of them today due to a lack of quality applicants vs vacancies. Perhaps this guy is one of them.

I don't know that it's Murder in Illinois, as I don't know their definition. Is it a criminal homicide of some type, regardless? Probably, though I'm not doing a deep dive into the whole event so maybe I'm wrong.

I don't know what their training is like, but I can guarantee you our department would say the officers did not utilize 'time, distance, and barriers'. As in safely back out, get something between you and the threat of hot water, and then negotiate from that position if the person is wanted for something. This assumes she's not an immediate threat to anyone else in the house if the officers back out.

If her husband/boyfriend/ neighbor shot her in the exact circumstances? What would be your thoughts? That should be the measure of reasonable actions the police can take as well. I think we all know the answer here, or considering it’s Ingo maybe not.

 

[Route 45]

Actually its not. Most police think because they have a badge and gun, then its ok to threaten and shoot someone for whatever reason. It's happened for far too long and accountability is slowly coming around.

I rebuke you in the name of INGO.

 

[gassprint1]

I think you're gtg unless you rebuke the officer in the name of Jesus.

I rebuke you in the name of INGO.

A friend wanted to know just in case that day he/she was watering the flowers..

 

[gassprint1]

If her husband/boyfriend/ neighbor shot her in the exact circumstances? What would be your thoughts? That should be the measure of reasonable actions the police can take as well. I think we all know the answer here, or considering it’s Ingo maybe not.

If i pissed off my gf that much to where she was going to throw her boiling tea water on me, I'm not going to stay in the same room. Wait till she and the water cool down...just friggin commin sense.

 

[racegunz]

If i pissed off my gf that much to where she was going to throw her boiling tea water on me, I'm not going to stay in the same room. Wait till she and the water cool down...just friggin commin sense.

Too bad the tattooed anabolic cops didn’t have that much sense.