Why the hate for Cyclists?

[printcraft]

There is on all the paths I use. Something to the effect that everyone should stay on their right side of the path. Pass safely on the left.

Uninformed bicyclists think pedestrians must walk single file, they do not. They think pedestrians must get out of their way, they do not. The think pedestrians must walk in the very edge of the shoulder, walk on side paths, they do not. I used to carry the pedestrian laws because even many LEO does not know pedestrian laws, just as some gun carriers do.

Skilled walkers also manage the traffic behind them for everyone’s safety. The walker can make it easy to pass when safe and more difficult when not safe to pass. They can't get over that often because there is broken glass, nails, needles and used condoms at the edges.

I cannot speak to the situation in the video. But the law is clear the bike must have three feet of clearance from the pedestrian or the bike is at fault. The pedestrian has the right to use the lane as practicable as needed to safely proceed. If this went to court the bike would likely lose…

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Well I park near the exit at Menards and go in the exit. Maybe went through the turnstiles once this year…

Ain't that just like a cyclist... going against traffic and to heck with everyone else. Scofflaws, the lot of 'em!

 

[KLB]

Their extreme mask nonsense made Menards dead to me.

 

[Ingomike]

Their extreme mask nonsense made Menards dead to me.

I agree, I hated it. Reduced the amount I spend there.

That said I have some sympathy for businesses, especially American medium business. They were put in a tough spot. They had to navigate several states edicts, including their home state of Michigan and nitWitmer. They chose to implement the Michigan model in all their stores which sucked in Indiana as they were stricter there.

Then there is the question of what if wuwho flu turned out differently than it did? What if Michigan regs turned out to save lives and as a company they did that, but in Indiana employees were dying because the company did not protect them as they did in Michigan. Is that a liability?

 

[KLB]

I agree, I hated it. Reduced the amount I spend there.

That said I have some sympathy for businesses, especially American medium business. They were put in a tough spot. They had to navigate several states edicts, including their home state of Michigan and nitWitmer. They chose to implement the Michigan model in all their stores which sucked in Indiana as they were stricter there.

Then there is the question of what if wuwho flu turned out differently than it did? What if Michigan regs turned out to save lives and as a company they did that, but in Indiana employees were dying because the company did not protect them as they did in Michigan. Is that a liability?

Home Depot, which is right across the street from Menards in Valpo, chose to not be mask Nazis. The what-if scenario is meaningless. There was no evidence it was like that. They kept their nonsense up long after that was evident. When a company tells me they do not want my business, I listen to them. They told me they didn't want it.

 

[Ingomike]

Home Depot, which is right across the street from Menards in Valpo, chose to not be mask Nazis. The what-if scenario is meaningless. There was no evidence it was like that. They kept their nonsense up long after that was evident. When a company tells me they do not want my business, I listen to them. They told me they didn't want it.

Not everyone has that option, I wish I did…

 

[indyblue]

Various localities ordinances:

Westfield​

Go as fast as you want on the Monon or other trails in Westfield; just know when to slow down. Westfield is the only city of the three that has an ordinance directing trail and park users how to yield to other users. Bikers yield to rollerbladers, who both yield to skateboarders, who all yield to runners, and everyone yields to walkers. Westfield also says to ride, run, walk and skate on the right except when passing — just like driving a car.
Violating any of these rules could get you removed from the trail.

Carmel​

Slow down! If you're heading south on the Monon from Westfield and you hit Carmel city limits, make sure you aren't going more than 20 mph, or you could be punished. There's a slice of Carmel where the speed limit is even lower due to pedestrian congestion; from 111th Street to 136th Street, the Monon's speed limit is 15 mph. Breaking the speed limit could result in expulsion from the trail or park, or in receiving a fine.

Breaking the speed limit could result in expulsion from the trail or park, or in receiving a fine. But Carmel Police Department Lt. Joe Bickel said he couldn't remember the last time the department responded to such an incident. nt Lt. Joe Bickel said he couldn't remember the last time the department responded to such an incident.

Indianapolis​

Go as fast as you want in Indianapolis. There's a slight difference here, though. In Westfield and Carmel, bikes with electric motors are allowed. In Indianapolis, you can ride them, but the motor has to be turned off.

 

[printcraft]

Who's the top of the heap? The bikers clearly won't stand for this.

 

[printcraft]

 

[jamil]

The sign says, "One at a Time"

I'm a bit surprised he didn't think of that one. He's kinda witty that way.

 

[indyartisan]

 

[jamil]

Well I park near the exit at Menards and go in the exit. Maybe went through the turnstiles once this year…

I've done that before. But the Menards likes to block off closed checkout lanes. So you have to go through the open ones to get into the store. Not a terrible burden, so whatever.

 

[jamil]

To the Mods,

This isn't like the fishing thread. I mean this one makes a very serious point that is vital to the topic.

 

[actaeon277]

following that, is how you wake up, minus a kidney

 

[jamil]

following that, is how you wake up, minus a kidney

I mean. It's just a video.

 

[chipbennett]

So by that logic many lawsuits are erroneously decided. McDonalds should have said coffee cups are intended for the hand and cup holder, not the lap. Slam dunk…

IIRC that lawsuit outcome rested on the temperature of the coffee, which was deemed to be excessive and at fault for the seriousness of the burns caused. It had nothing to do with intended vs permitted use of the coffee cup.

 

[chipbennett]

Actually they're both on the wrong side of the road. Pedestrians are supposed to walk against traffic, on the left side of the road. Bicycles are supposed to ride with traffic, on the right side of the road.

Wasn't that a path? It doesn't look like a road to me.

 

[chipbennett]

Then how was the cyclist on the wrong side? I'd say bicycles constitute "traffic". I think the same rules generally apply.

That's not how pedestrian/bike paths work, anywhere that I'm aware of.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Wasn't that a path? It doesn't look like a road to me.

Yep, I was corrected.

 

[chipbennett]

That's the way it works on regular streets. Pedestrians and vehicular traffic (yes, even bicycles) should always be going against each other.

That is because roads have motor vehicle traffic. Pedestrians use roadways opposing motor vehicle traffic.