Why is the 10mm so unpopular????

[Route 45]

I see the 10mm as a specialty round. It would be a great pistol to carry if your travels take you through brown bear, cougar or wild boar country. Lots to be said for solid flat point 200 grain bullets at 1150 fps.

 

[singlesix]

For me it doesn't fit any of my needs; target shooting 38/9mm, HG hunting .357 mag, SD 38/9mm/40

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Why is the .41 magnum so unpopular?

 

[Route 45]

Why is the .41 magnum so unpopular?

Cause .41 is a weird number.

 

[JeremiahJohnson]

I like my G20, carry it often, shoot it often. I haven't done so, but you can drop a .40 barrel straight in and shoot it with the same mags. If you're looking to just reduce ammo cost/availability that's an option.

 

[jimbo-indy]

Everybody says 10 mm and immediately thinks Glock 20. There is an alternative: S&W 610. It's an N frame so there's lots of steel around the cases and a frame that handles the 44 Mag should stand up to hot 10 mm loads. I carry my 6 1/2" 610 in a vertical shoulder holster with a couple of loaded moon clips in my pocket. Really quite comfortable. With the revolver, you have the option of shooting 40 SW for practice without any changes. True, the 10 mm really needs hand loads to achieve full potential. Longshot powder shines in the 10mm. Mine throws 180's @ 1350 FPS across the chrono. XTP hollow points or flat nosed solids both work well.

 

[in625shooter]

Everybody says 10 mm and immediately thinks Glock 20. There is an alternative: S&W 610. It's an L frame so there's lots of steel around the cases and a frame that handles the 44 Mag should stand up to hot 10 mm loads. I carry my 6 1/2" 610 in a vertical shoulder holster with a couple of loaded moon clips in my pocket. Really quite comfortable. With the revolver, you have the option of shooting 40 SW for practice without any changes. True, the 10 mm really needs hand loads to achieve full potential. Longshot powder shines in the 10mm. Mine throws 180's @ 1350 FPS across the chrono. XTP hollow points or flat nosed solids both work well.

Not to play gun model Nazi but the 610 is actually a N frame but i'm sure it was a mis type LOL. I missed out and should have gotten an S&W c610. Wanted one just waited too long and then they were gone (other than increased prices fr a used speciment) Good option of running 40's as well.

The 40 Barrel in a Glock 20 is an often under rated option as well.

 

[jimbo-indy]

You are correct, have dyslexia of the fingers today.
Post corrected to N frame.

 

[Expat]

I have a G20 but really, really like my P220 in 10mm. It shoots great, runs like butter.

 

[LP1]

It offers little that can't be found with other common (and less expensive) calibers. Want a big bullet? Go with .45. Want capacity with decent ballistics? Go with 9mm.

 

[Baba Looey]

The 1st let down for the 10mm was the Bren Ten being offered and not fulfilling all orders before going out of business. Initially there weren't many offerings in 10. The FBI abandoned it, S&W and Colt offered it , stopped making them and then re-introduced them but it was too late. Most of the big manufacturers have or still do offer it along with custom makers.As others have said the lack of popularity affected the ammo price. The unpopularity means there is more for me. Colonel Cooper came up with one heck of a round in the 10mm and if I had to sell off all but 1handgun the 10 would be my keeper.long live the 10.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

There's a lot of objectively good cartridges that just never made the big time, or only survive in niche markets. .38 Super, .41 Mag, .357 Sig, etc. etc. It's not there's anything WRONG with them, it's just they don't do anything other established players don't already do. It's tough to break into the 9mm/.40/.45 duty caliber triumvirate in any significant way because they have a lot of momentum and there's just not much meat on the bone to find something they don't do and do it better.

 

[BugI02]

From what I hear, it makes a fine hog hunting gun.

Don't be too sure. I've seen a hunting partner blow a charging hog's guts out its *** with a rifle and it still came on another 5-7 yds. Maybe as a last ditch back up.

 

[BugI02]

I would consider a Bren Ten if the price was right

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But then I'm weird

 

[9mmfan]

I'm carrying a G20 SF right now. I shoot Underwood Ammo out of it. Simply great ammo.
One reason I switched this season is because of people wearing heavy winter jackets.
And it's fun to shoot.

 

[6mm Shoot]

When the 10 came out it was costly to buy the gun. Then the guns started to brake. It was claimed that the round was to hot for the 1911 design. Some custom makers beefed up the frames and put in heavy springs and it worked. Then they cost over $1500 back then. That put a lot of people off the brand.

Now today you can go the Glock path for about $600 and load your own and it isn't to bad of a deal. Now if you are going to go the 1911 style or custom and spend a lot of bucks I would rather go with the 357mag and be dun with it. You only give up 100 FPS to the 10mm using 180 gr bullets. I think there is still two Co. that make the 357 mag in a 1911 style pistol.

Now I am not trying to step on any nerves here But, this is the listings of a 200 gr bullets from Hornady reloading book.

The 10 mm lists a 200 gr bullet at a max load of 1150 FPS.

The 45 ACP lists a 200 gr bullet at a max load at 1000 FPS.

The 44 mag lists a 200 gr bullet at a max load at 1600 FPS.

The 44 mag lists a 200 gr bullet in a TC at 2000 FPS max load.

Now I have said it before and I will say it again. The 10 mm has nothing but 150 FPS over a 45 with a smaller bullet. What is the big deal? Why would I want to abuse the weapon or my self for 150 FPS more than a 45. Now some one will come up with you can buy Corban rounds that give it more power. They do the same thing for the 45. I don't want to use any of that type of ammo in any of my guns. They cost to much and I have other weapons that have more power if I need it.

Now if you need a lot of power I would go with the 44mag and kick it down to about 1400 FPS and be dun with it. If you need more power than that it's time to go to a rifle.

When I load for my 45 I go for a 850 FPS with a 230 gr bullet. In my 44 mag 4" barrel I go for a 1100 FPS. In the 8" and 7" I go for 1300 FPS using 240 gr bullets. If that don't do what I want I will pick up a rifle. 243, 308, or go all out and grab the 358 Winchester. There isn't much in this country that it can't take down. If it can take a well placed hit with a 358 Winchester using a 225 gr bullet and still keep coming, I don't want to hunt it.

 

[in625shooter]

When the 10 came out it was costly to buy the gun. Then the guns started to brake. It was claimed that the round was to hot for the 1911 design. Some custom makers beefed up the frames and put in heavy springs and it worked. Then they cost over $1500 back then. That put a lot of people off the brand.

Now today you can go the Glock path for about $600 and load your own and it isn't to bad of a deal. Now if you are going to go the 1911 style or custom and spend a lot of bucks I would rather go with the 357mag and be dun with it. You only give up 100 FPS to the 10mm using 180 gr bullets. I think there is still two Co. that make the 357 mag in a 1911 style pistol.

Now I am not trying to step on any nerves here But, this is the listings of a 200 gr bullets from Hornady reloading book.

The 10 mm lists a 200 gr bullet at a max load of 1150 FPS.

The 45 ACP lists a 200 gr bullet at a max load at 1000 FPS.

The 44 mag lists a 200 gr bullet at a max load at 1600 FPS.

The 44 mag lists a 200 gr bullet in a TC at 2000 FPS max load.

Now I have said it before and I will say it again. The 10 mm has nothing but 150 FPS over a 45 with a smaller bullet. What is the big deal? Why would I want to abuse the weapon or my self for 150 FPS more than a 45. Now some one will come up with you can buy Corban rounds that give it more power. They do the same thing for the 45. I don't want to use any of that type of ammo in any of my guns. They cost to much and I have other weapons that have more power if I need it.

Now if you need a lot of power I would go with the 44mag and kick it down to about 1400 FPS and be dun with it. If you need more power than that it's time to go to a rifle.

When I load for my 45 I go for a 850 FPS with a 230 gr bullet. In my 44 mag 4" barrel I go for a 1100 FPS. In the 8" and 7" I go for 1300 FPS using 240 gr bullets. If that don't do what I want I will pick up a rifle. 243, 308, or go all out and grab the 358 Winchester. There isn't much in this country that it can't take down. If it can take a well placed hit with a 358 Winchester using a 225 gr bullet and still keep coming, I don't want to hunt it.

While there is a point to what your saying there is a little history in how we got here. The ammo companies today (generally speaking) load down the 10mm to slightly more than what they did for the FBI back in the day when they came up with the whole 10mm light concept.

Original loadings for the 10mm were not much different than what some call a hot round.

In its original format it was better than today but remember, ammo companies have made great strides in the ammo and materials on the expansion/penitration ballence so you don't have to have 10mm or 357 velocities to get those results. (Exactly why several agencies are going back to the 9mm)

 

[10mmfan]

I love my 10mm and I carry it sometimes but most loads i shoot are mild as far as a 10mm goes. My gun is a Smith 1006. Some of my friends say i just like to be different with my 10mm .357 sig, 41 magnum and my 25-06 . I believe they all have a place and a 10mm is not for everyone but for those that recognize its potential it is a nice caliber that performs well in certain roles.

 

[mdmayo]

Isn't part of the problem a lack of bullet choices beyond those specifically developed for .40 S&W? I see a lot of mentions of 180r, specifically Federal HST bonded being used, but I recall reading the increased velocity wreaks havoc on most .40 cal bullets...

 

[BFR50-110]

When the 10 came out it was costly to buy the gun. Then the guns started to brake. It was claimed that the round was to hot for the 1911 design. Some custom makers beefed up the frames and put in heavy springs and it worked. Then they cost over $1500 back then. That put a lot of people off the brand.

Now today you can go the Glock path for about $600 and load your own and it isn't to bad of a deal. Now if you are going to go the 1911 style or custom and spend a lot of bucks I would rather go with the 357mag and be dun with it. You only give up 100 FPS to the 10mm using 180 gr bullets. I think there is still two Co. that make the 357 mag in a 1911 style pistol.

Now I am not trying to step on any nerves here But, this is the listings of a 200 gr bullets from Hornady reloading book.

The 10 mm lists a 200 gr bullet at a max load of 1150 FPS.

The 45 ACP lists a 200 gr bullet at a max load at 1000 FPS.

The 44 mag lists a 200 gr bullet at a max load at 1600 FPS.

The 44 mag lists a 200 gr bullet in a TC at 2000 FPS max load.

Now I have said it before and I will say it again. The 10 mm has nothing but 150 FPS over a 45 with a smaller bullet. What is the big deal? Why would I want to abuse the weapon or my self for 150 FPS more than a 45. Now some one will come up with you can buy Corban rounds that give it more power. They do the same thing for the 45. I don't want to use any of that type of ammo in any of my guns. They cost to much and I have other weapons that have more power if I need it.

Now if you need a lot of power I would go with the 44mag and kick it down to about 1400 FPS and be dun with it. If you need more power than that it's time to go to a rifle.

When I load for my 45 I go for a 850 FPS with a 230 gr bullet. In my 44 mag 4" barrel I go for a 1100 FPS. In the 8" and 7" I go for 1300 FPS using 240 gr bullets. If that don't do what I want I will pick up a rifle. 243, 308, or go all out and grab the 358 Winchester. There isn't much in this country that it can't take down. If it can take a well placed hit with a 358 Winchester using a 225 gr bullet and still keep coming, I don't want to hunt it.[/QUOTE
I have a Coonan .357 1911 and gives up nothing to a 10mm. I shot Buffalo Bore .357 magnum 158 grain through a chronograph and it averaged 1554 fps which calculates to 847 ft-lbs of energy. That said I'm still interested in getting a 10mn eventually.