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    photoshooter

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    Democrat that votes independent.

    Old style democrat: Jeffersonian individual & states rights trump federal power??? Live YOUR life the way you want without the almighty state getting in your business.

    Or new democrat: Federalism isn't big enough... more... more... more power! (sort of a "Jefferson who????")
     

    irishfan

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    in your head
    I like to think I am an old style democrat with more consevative views pre-JFK style. As far as the political parties of today I align with none of them and vote who I see best or most likely the lesser of two evils.
     

    rambone

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    No communists or socialist yet.......hmmmmm...and I thought they were running rampant all over the place........

    They are out there. But they are either too smart or too blind to actually call their views what they really are. They affiliate themselves with another party and keep supporting the same socialist ideals.





    Old style democrat: Jeffersonian individual & states rights trump federal power??? Live YOUR life the way you want without the almighty state getting in your business.

    Or new democrat: Federalism isn't big enough... more... more... more power! (sort of a "Jefferson who????")

    I like to think I am an old style democrat with more consevative views pre-JFK style. As far as the political parties of today I align with none of them and vote who I see best or most likely the lesser of two evils.

    I'm not that old... but how far back must we go to find a Democrat party that was not inextricably tied to the Federal Government (and socialism)? I would say that JFK was the most admirable democrat of our time, but the rest of his family have all proven themselves to be committed socialists and leftists. It makes me wonder what more of John Kennedy's motives would have been revealed had he lived as long as, say, his brother Ted Kennedy.

    As for the pre-JFK days, when did they believe in trumping Federal power? Certainly not in FDR's day, confiscating citizens' gold, internment camps for Japanese Americans, and a slew of socialist programs that have all been proven to be unsustainable.

    Before that? Woodrow Wilson? The creation of the Federal Reserve, the Federal Trade Commission, and the first Federal drug prohibition?


    I just cannot conclude that the Democrats have stood for anything except growth of government in the past 100 years.
    Unless I read up on presidents of the 1800's, I don't know if it was ever any different.
     

    JR50

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    I voted 'Independent' because it's closest to 'none'. The big established parties...Dems: forget it! Repubs need to get back to the AuH2O days. Is any other party viable and worthwhile? That's why I'm closer to 'none'.
     

    Indy_Guy_77

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    Was that part of Operation Whatever? The thing that Rush Limbaugh was encouraging everybody to get out and register for Hillary to mess with their prelims?

    Not in response to him specifically...but yes. That is why I did what I did.

    And it made me feel dirty.

    Just like that one time in college...
     

    photoshooter

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    I'm not that old... but how far back must we go to find a Democrat party that was not inextricably tied to the Federal Government (and socialism)?

    The problem with identifying oneself as a Democrat is that the Democrats of old totally disappeared by the time of Abraham Lincoln.

    since the time of Woodrow Wilson, the Democrat Party had totally abandoned the principles of individual rights, Federal power deprived from an answerable to the individual states.

    The Federalist party of Adams and Hamilton during our early years has grown into a monster of Federalims (An all powerful Federal Government - to which the individual states are reliant on for sustenance). Lincoln himself did extreme damage to our Constitution as a limit on the federal governement.

    So, where does that leave us today?

    The Republicans run on "conservative values" but govern from the scope of an all powerful federal govt that runs the economy, and thereby the states.

    The counterpoint to the Federalism should be a Jeffersonian style individual liberty & States Rights.

    But, the Democrats of today don't go that way. Instead, the current Dem party is based on the principles of Progressive government. This puts the Federalists in the Republican party to shame in the big government range.

    The closest we have to the party of Jefferson is the Libertarian party.

    The problem is that the Repub and Dem (Federalists and Progressives) parties have co-opted the political process to the point that no other party can hope to gain enough of a foothold on the national level to make any difference.

    So, old style Democrat... you have to go back to Andrew Jackson to see a real States' and individual rights true democrat. Anything after that was pretty much a Progressive.
     

    rambone

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    So, old style Democrat... you have to go back to Andrew Jackson to see a real States' and individual rights true democrat. Anything after that was pretty much a Progressive.

    That was my feeling as well. No one alive today can remember a time when Democrats didn't stand for Progressive Socialism.
     

    Waveraider

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    Millard Fillmore. Whigs Rule!
     

    dwh79

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    I use to classify my self as a republican and still vote for them most of the time but I consider myself a conservative and will vote for the canidate that I feel represents my interest the best regardless of party affiliation.
     

    ThrottleJockey

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    While I consider myself a Constitutionalist, I'm about half way between independent and libertarian. If I enjoyed wasting my time, I would vote republican due to their alleged conservative values. Our 2 party system really doesn't allow for any other choices and even those 2 parties have had the lines blurred beyond recognition. Besides, does it really matter what party you support since the representatives seem to be jumping ship and joining opposing teams with no recourse for the voters that elected them based on what party they represent?
     

    groovatron

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    While I consider myself a Constitutionalist, I'm about half way between independent and libertarian. If I enjoyed wasting my time, I would vote republican due to their alleged conservative values. Our 2 party system really doesn't allow for any other choices and even those 2 parties have had the lines blurred beyond recognition. Besides, does it really matter what party you support since the representatives seem to be jumping ship and joining opposing teams with no recourse for the voters that elected them based on what party they represent?


    Agree:yesway:
     
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    dwh79

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    Might I ask who then you vote for? I understand what you are saying both parties are horrible but when it comes down to a general election the way I see it you have two choices only. I am open to suggestions on voting in general elections.
     
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