Why would you have to kill them? There are several non lethal places to hit hit an assailant and stop his his progression. JMO
Why would you have to kill them? There are several non lethal places to hit hit an assailant and stop his his progression. JMO
+1, repped.Draw on him and tell him not to make any sudden movements. Then tell him to drop the knife. Then tell him to get down on the ground. Then tell someone to call the cops. Remove the knife from his reach. Stay drawn on him until police arrive.
If he makes any sudden movements towards someone with the knife, stop the threat.
If he decides to run away reholster, stay on the scene, and call the cops.
I am not going to watch someone get stabbed knowing it was coming and I could have acted to stop it.
Also, you are legally able to protect a third party.
I have posted this link on here before. It is worth reading guys. It is the nature of all good Americans to want to help but often times one needs to really consider the possible ramifications. Commentary by Evan Marshall
Why would you have to kill them? There are several non lethal places to hit hit an assailant and stop his his progression. JMO
Have to ask yourself if you can answer yes to all 3 of these ?'s. If your life is in DANGER.
Ability-Does he have the Ability? yes he has the ability to turn and stab me
Opportunity-Does he have the Opportunity? yes he has the opportunity to turn my direction and stab me
Intent-Does he have the Intent? yes he has the intent to turn and rob me of my wallet and then leave no witness to his felony
A guy holding a knife to the cashier is not an immedate threat to my life, unless he threatens me with the weapon.
Be the best witness you can in this situation!
+1! HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA i'm totally with you. as a former galyans employee, i totally miss the trading post!
Thats the difference between your LE training, and a civilian trying to stop an act of violence. after all of your training you mean to tell me that there is no way to disable the advancement of a attacker without shooting to kill, and end the situation? And I did not say that it would be MY choice, I was stating options.I'm sorry but there is a lot of fail in this thread.
Even if I wasn't a Police Officer I would differently pull my handgun and stop a forcible felony from occurring (even though it isn't my money, nor my family or loved ones endangered). I also am not able to read minds, so I'm just going to go ahead and assume that someone who is capable of pulling a knife on another human being and committing armed robbery is also capable of sticking said knife into that person and killing them. I have yet to see someone announce prior to sticking a knife in them that " I am now going to stick my knife into the left side of your chest and I will do this twice". "I will then pull the knife back out and after stabbing your 3 times on the right side of your neck I will then attempt to slice your neck open". Again call it an assumption but I'm going to error on the side of safety (of the victim of the armored robbery) and intervene before it happens.
By the way if that person has their knife out already, you are behind the game now. Waiting for them to start cutting or stabbing the victim, prior to intervening (just to make sure they are actually threatened) is going to cause that person to lose their life.
To be gentle, the only advice I have for you is to get some really good training. You aim and shoot to stop the threat as soon as possible, you do not aim for lethal or non lethal "places".
Why would you have to kill them? There are several non lethal places to hit hit an assailant and stop his his progression. JMO
uhhhhhhh.....yeah, and then after you are finished paying him $80,000 a year for the rest of his life because a civil lawsuit deemed that your actions prevented him from working for an honest living after your unjust act of vigilanty bravery, you'll wish you would have ended his stay here on earth. i know it horrible to think of, ending someones life, but truthfully simply injuring someone will bring years of crappy legal battles. no criminal charges for your actions but be prepared to get you socks sued off from some scumbag who chose to put his life in harms way. its just the world we live in, remember, he had a bad childhood and thats what pushed him to do his evil deeds, its not his fault. i don't want to be the guy in the paper shooting someone but if i'm gonna decide to put one in him hes not gonna be giving his side of the story. BTW, i did pose this question, about shooting to kill or shooting to disable, to both a lawyer and prosecutor, they both said it would be advisable to end the threat terminally rather than leave a witness to another give a different side of the story. remember, dead men tell no tales. may we each be blessed so as not to be put in this situation! jeff
OK, if that is the case what would be the difference between a wrongful dealth lawsuit, filed by the family when you shoot and kill them. In the end there is no real winning situation for all.uhhhhhhh.....yeah, and then after you are finished paying him $80,000 a year for the rest of his life because a civil lawsuit deemed that your actions prevented him from working for an honest living after your unjust act of vigilanty bravery, you'll wish you would have ended his stay here on earth. i know it horrible to think of, ending someones life, but truthfully simply injuring someone will bring years of crappy legal battles. no criminal charges for your actions but be prepared to get you socks sued off from some scumbag who chose to put his life in harms way. its just the world we live in, remember, he had a bad childhood and thats what pushed him to do his evil deeds, its not his fault. i don't want to be the guy in the paper shooting someone but if i'm gonna decide to put one in him hes not gonna be giving his side of the story. BTW, i did pose this question, about shooting to kill or shooting to disable, to both a lawyer and prosecutor, they both said it would be advisable to end the threat terminally rather than leave a witness to another give a different side of the story. remember, dead men tell no tales. may we each be blessed so as not to be put in this situation! jeff