What kind of ignorant fools are these school administrators?

[mrjarrell]

 

[mrjarrell]

Times change and we have to change with them.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Times change and we have to change with them.

They put in place a way to make these changes instead of just going around them or redefining them.

 

[mrjarrell]

They put in place a way to make these changes instead of just going around them or redefining them.

And, almost without fail the states have been using those methods to change them. We have the ballot box, the legislatures and the courts as prime movers. We're not supposed to remain stuck in the dark ages, as some would have us.

 

[Trooper]

But what the hell did he know, right? Trooper would have marched him out and shot him to death with one of his elite military rulers death squads.

Jefferson also believed that we should have regular revolutions where the elites were executed.

 

[Trooper]

And, almost without fail the states have been using those methods to change them. We have the ballot box, the legislatures and the courts as prime movers. We're not supposed to remain stuck in the dark ages, as some would have us.

But you do not want government. You are an anti federalist who wants a world without rules or laws. In other words the ghetto of our big cities.

 

[fireman76]

Banning green and red. What colors are we going to change the traffic signals to?

 

[Trooper]

If individual responsibilty is mandated as a condition of freedom, most issues in life would be self balancing. 90% of the perversion of justice that we call the law would not even need to exist.

One principle of conservativism is to be self disciplined. Not merely in sex but in how you control all of your appetites. You eat right, you exercise your body. You maintain your health. You do not give into hedonism and decadence.

 

[mrjarrell]

Jefferson also believed that we should have regular revolutions where the elites were executed.

Political revolutions, not shooting wars that end up with a military junta, as you would like to see.
A little rebellion...(Quotation) « Thomas Jefferson?s Monticello

Even this evil is productive of good. It prevents the degeneracy of government, and nourishes a general attention to the public affairs. I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.[1]

 

[mrjarrell]

But you do not want government. You are an anti federalist who wants a world without rules or laws. In other words the ghetto of our big cities.

LOL. Nope. That is the end I would wish. People ruling themselves, not others. But, I am willing to accept getting there in increments. But, none of the increments I would find acceptable, or a majority of sane people, include your particular vision of a military ruled country. As for your attempt at an insult, I'd consider myself in good company as an anti-federalist. They were all far better men than you and I'm glad that at least one of them is a relation of mine.
Anti-Federalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Trooper]

Political revolutions, not shooting wars that end up with a military junta, as you would like to see.
A little rebellion...(Quotation) « Thomas Jefferson?s Monticello

Jefferson was in love with the French Revolution. Wanted the same thing here.

 

[mrjarrell]

Jefferson was in love with the French Revolution. Wanted the same thing here.

No, he did not. He saw, first hand what happens when the mob rules and the terror that was unleashed on France and wanted no part of that for his country. He grieved for the lost potential of the French revolution and the losses they sustained as a result of the terrors after the initial revolution.

http://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/french-revolution

After succeeding Benjamin Franklin as American minister at Versailles, witnessing the first chapter of the French Revolution[SUP][1][/SUP], and conducting foreign affairs as Secretary of State, Jefferson could not escape the immediate effects the French Revolution had on his career. Like most Americans, when the French rebelled against Louis XVI, he generally praised their action, hesitated over it, and finally recoiled from it.

 

[Trooper]

No, he did not. He saw, first hand what happens when the mob rules and the terror that was unleashed on France and wanted no part of that for his country. He grieved for the lost potential of the French revolution and the losses they sustained as a result of the terrors after the initial revolution.

French Revolution « Thomas Jefferson?s Monticello

Thomas Paine very much recoiled from revolution. Especially after he was put into prison and scheduled for beheading.

 

[mrjarrell]

Thomas Paine very much recoiled from revolution. Especially after he was put into prison and scheduled for beheading.

You're just all over the map, aren't you? You're making less sense than usual.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

It's kind of hard to tell, but it seems some folks here are advocating changing one sort of (imagined) tyranny - the supposed "state sponsored church" - for an altogether real tyranny, the denial of the individual the right to worship as he pleases, where he pleases. The first "tyranny" is imagined as being somewhere in the Constitution - it's not - while the second tyranny is definitely protected in the First Amendment. It shouldn't be hard for a "reasonable man" to figure out which "tyranny" is wrong.