what can college students carry?

[sj kahr k40]

i thought you could only carry on a college campus as long as it stayed in your car well Ball State at least. but i thought it was law that you couldnt carry on campus. i guess from what was said above you can? as long as its not against school policy?

Most campuses have a no firearm policy, those policies are not the law, it is not illegal to carry on a college campus in Indiana.

Breaking school policy can get you expelled from school but can't get you arrested.

 

[DagerOne]

According to IUPUI Policy all of these could get you disciplined

Academic Policies & Procedures : IUPUI Bulletins

I'm sure most colleges have similar policies

Indeed, Notre Dame at least has the same policy:

"Firearms, explosives, flammable substances and other weapons of any kind are not allowed on University property. This includes, but is not limited to rifles, shotguns, pistols, BB guns, pellet guns, bows and arrows, stun guns, knives, and martial arts weapons. Possession of any firearm or other weapon on University property, including in an employee’s automobile, is cause for corrective action up to and including termination.
Employees who are required to carry a weapon as part of their job with the University are exempted from this policy."


While it reads for "employees", it explicitly states that the policy "Applies to Administrators, Faculty, Staff, and Students"

 

[iamaclone45]

I DO have a daughter in college and I am a big fan of tasers.

Just remember that tasers in Indiana require a LTCH. A stun gun does not.

Here is the information from a previous post by "shooter521".

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...efense/58960-tasers_stun_guns.html#post643704

 

[Bflo]

What if the college has a day care on site? Doesn't this make it illegal to carry, regardless of the university's policy?

 

[Jon Craig]

Get her a proper concealment rig and teach her good concealment.

 

[Hornett]

Just remember that tasers in Indiana require a LTCH. A stun gun does not.

Here is the information from a previous post by "shooter521".

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...efense/58960-tasers_stun_guns.html#post643704

Good Point.
Thanks.
I was actually thinking stun gun.
The one that does not shoot projectiles.
But, I tend to lump them all together and call them all Tasers.
I gotta quit doing that.

 

[downzero]

Get her a proper concealment rig and teach her good concealment.

I don't really think that's a good idea. The effects of getting "made" would be lifelong. It's just not worth it.

 

[Bflo]

I don't really think that's a good idea. The effects of getting "made" would be lifelong. It's just not worth it.

+1, totally not worth it.

 

[kludge]

Most campuses have a no firearm policy, those policies are not the law, it is not illegal to carry on a college campus in Indiana.

Breaking school policy can get you expelled from school but can't get you arrested.

And I would immediately sue for reinstatement without prejudice if at a State Owned school.

Years ago I carried at college. Didn't ask, didn't tell.

My wife is back at the same school now. Like right now, this evening and I wish she had something.

I will be getting her pepper spray regardless of any policy. The right to self defense, the unenumerated right which SCOTUS used, partly, to declare that the RKBA is an individual one, which right is now incorporated against the States, does not end at Michigan Avenue.

 

[rockhopper46038]

Just glanced through the I.U. policy link, very possibly missed something, but if you aren't boarding your daughter at school (i.e. residence hall), I didn't see anything forbidding the carrying of a firearm, so long as the possession is legal under Indiana law.
Last time I was in Bloomington I had trouble with my universal translator...all I could make out was "blah blah blah "Obama" blah blah blah "Draconian Republicans" blah blah blah "soak the rich" blah blah...has it gotten any better?

 

[Hornett]

Just glanced through the I.U. policy link, very possibly missed something, but if you aren't boarding your daughter at school (i.e. residence hall), I didn't see anything forbidding the carrying of a firearm, so long as the possession is legal under Indiana law.
Last time I was in Bloomington I had trouble with my universal translator...all I could make out was "blah blah blah "Obama" blah blah blah "Draconian Republicans" blah blah blah "soak the rich" blah blah...has it gotten any better?

I'm thinkin'... No.

 

[PatriotPride]

I am sending my daughter off to college and was wondering what other Dads gave their daughters for self protection while on campus. I would love to get her a 9mm but I know that won't fly. So what is left? Mace/pepper spray? Machete? Bazooka?

P.S. Do any other Dads notice how college girls looked so hot when we were younger but now that our girls are college girls we take offense to guys checking them out? No wonder I carry a gun!

Not quite the same thing, but my fiancee is 21 and I have her carrying a KelTec in her purse. I've had her carry it for about a year now---problem is, she can be a bit touchy about carrying on campus, and in Michigan the law is no CC on a college campus (AFAIK)...so when she transferred up there I left it up to her. She also carries pepper-spray.

Would she consider a Glock 26? They're still small enough to conceal in a purse. I like where you're going with the machete/bazooka combo

I'm not a dad, but I DEFINITELY notice the college girls..ahem I mean I DID before I got engaged

Also---PICS?

 

[PatriotPride]

If you take offense to people checking out your adult-aged daughter, it sounds like you need some therapy, seriously. Nothing could be more entrenched in our humanity than seeking a mate of fertile age. If the reason you carry a gun is to threaten these people, perhaps you should even question why or if you should carry at all.

Personally, I think your daughter would be better served with some self defense classes than any weapon. Having pepper spray depends on having it with her, and the ability for her to deploy it and get away. A self defense class will stay with her forever, and could help her manage a situation before it gets out of control.

Nearly every college that has students staying on campus has extensive policy on the books regarding sexual assaults and most also have classes on alcohol use and polices aimed at deterring people from engaging in shady conduct.

As an adult, it's going to be one of the most useful skills she ever has, to learn how to manage men and how they respond. I am unpersuaded that there's any difference between college men out at a bar and men at a party or happy hour after work. Adult women absolutely must learn how to deal with these situations. Avoiding the worst of them will serve her far better than any amount of fighting, chemical self defense weapon, etc.

Come on now! Cut him some slack! I SERIOUSLY doubt he was insinuating that he "carries a gun to threaten people" looking at his daughter. It's a common joke. I think we ALL know how rambunctious college guys CAN get, and we all know how attractive college women can be

I will say that I have ALWAYS been a gentleman when interacting with women. Nevertheless, it was always a good reminder that should I step out of line, I would be dealing with a very upset and very armed father. I think it's a good incentive to behave if it's understand that the father is, in fact, armed and WILL protect his daughter if need be.

 

[rush176]

If you take offense to people checking out your adult-aged daughter, it sounds like you need some therapy, seriously. Nothing could be more entrenched in our humanity than seeking a mate of fertile age. If the reason you carry a gun is to threaten these people, perhaps you should even question why or if you should carry at all.

One of the many reasons I carry a gun to protect my daughter from idiots like you who only look at her as "a mate of fertile age". I am trying to get opinions from other people on what works and what doesn't regarding on campus self defense options and you turn it into some rant about how its OK to degrade women by treating them like a piece of meat.

Indeed, Notre Dame at least has the same policy:

"Firearms, explosives, flammable substances and other weapons of any kind are not allowed on University property. This includes, but is not limited to rifles, shotguns, pistols, BB guns, pellet guns, bows and arrows, stun guns, knives, and martial arts weapons. Possession of any firearm or other weapon on University property, including in an employee’s automobile, is cause for corrective action up to and including termination.
Employees who are required to carry a weapon as part of their job with the University are exempted from this policy."


While it reads for "employees", it explicitly states that the policy "Applies to Administrators, Faculty, Staff, and Students"

I checked her college's website and it is very similar to this. So as tempting as it is to have her CC I think it would be unrealistic to think she could make it through 4 years in college living on campus and no one finding out she carries a gun. At the very least her room mate would know and all it would take is one slip of the tongue for trouble to occur.

I think the best I can do is check out pepper spray/mace that attaches to her room key chain. Its not much but better than nothing. She has already taken the self defense classes offered on campus and never goes out without a buddy or three.

 

[PatriotPride]

One of the many reasons I carry a gun to protect my daughter from idiots like you who only look at her as "a mate of fertile age". She is so much more than a way to scratch a biological itch and any jerk that tries to treat her that way will be treated like the scum he is.

WELL PUT SIR. Well put indeed.



I checked her college's website and it is very similar to this. So as tempting as it is to have her CC I think it would be unrealistic to think she could make it through 4 years in college living on campus and no one finding out she carries a gun. At the very least her room mate would know and all it would take is one slip of the tongue for trouble to occur.

I think the best I can do is check out pepper spray/mace that attaches to her room key chain. Its not much but better than nothing. She has already taken the self defense classes offered on campus and never goes out without a buddy or three.

You'd be surprised. I attended one college, and routinely would walk in and out the front door of my dorm/college apartments carrying a Mosin M91/30...several times right past the campus police. Never a word. Then again, we DID have a student get murdered right in my building not too long after that, SO...maybe people just weren't paying attention I digress (sorry)

It's my opinion that were she to carry on campus, she could keep it concealed for the entire time she was there. It's not easy, and not everyone is up to that. There are some great pepper-sprays that attach to keychains. It's definitely better than nothing.

 

[spartan933]

Legally she can carry a gun if she's 18 and has a LTCH, it might be against school policy, but it's not illegal. That is if she is going to college in Indiana.

That's exactly right. In the wonderful state of Indiana, we are not allowed to bring firearms or weapons onto/into highschools, elementary schools, etc. However, we are allowed to do so in universities. But, all of the universities in our state have a policy that says if you do carry a weapon onto campus, you will be expelled. If you carry onto the campus, are asked to leave, and refuse, then you will be arrested for trespassing.

My fiance' goes to IU Northwest in Gary, at night. She has an LTCH, and she carries her Beretta PX4 Storm SC in one of her GIGANTIC purses to class. I don't want her walking out of school at night on the way to her car, without a gun on her. Sorry, IUN PD, but there aren't enough of you walking around at night at all the buildings. I would rather her be expelled than get assaulted.

Besides, locking the gun in the vehicle sounds great, but what is a woman to do when she on the way to her vehicle? No sir, I suggest you arm your daughter, especially if she is in night school.

 

[Comp]

I know several people who are going on 2 years plus carrying on campus with no problem. CC of course. It just requires great conceal disciple. In fact, I see tactical knife clips on jean pockets all the time on campus, which I believe are just as against policy.

Anyways, what I am trying to say is: It can be done with the right look and attitude.

Especially for ladies, if you are wearing a low cut shirt, I guarantee 90% of guys are not looking at you printing in other areas. The other 5% is into guys and there is the 5% of guys who look at hands, then waist, then shirt ( I think most ingo falls in this 5%)

Sorry for the long post and I am in no way suggesting you put her in said shirt. I was just stating how well misdirection works.

 

[JoshuaW]

Remind her to that most, if not all, universities will provide a campus police escort if you ask for one. Its a hassle, and in no way should be her sole plan, but it is available. I was talking to a friend that just went back to school in Illinois, and mentioned this subject to her. Her response was "Oh, I dont worry. The police will walk with you if you ask. They even have a text line now to!". I have visited the campus, and it does NOT have nearly enough officers for that to be realistic for everyone. Obviously no campus or jurisdiction could.

 

[downzero]

Remind her to that most, if not all, universities will provide a campus police escort if you ask for one. Its a hassle, and in no way should be her sole plan, but it is available. I was talking to a friend that just went back to school in Illinois, and mentioned this subject to her. Her response was "Oh, I dont worry. The police will walk with you if you ask. They even have a text line now to!". I have visited the campus, and it does NOT have nearly enough officers for that to be realistic for everyone. Obviously no campus or jurisdiction could.

University of Illinois PD has something like 53 officers. I'd say that's pretty big.

One of the many reasons I carry a gun to protect my daughter from idiots like you who only look at her as "a mate of fertile age". I am trying to get opinions from other people on what works and what doesn't regarding on campus self defense options and you turn it into some rant about how its OK to degrade women by treating them like a piece of meat.

Whoa there. Enjoy your infraction.

I checked her college's website and it is very similar to this. So as tempting as it is to have her CC I think it would be unrealistic to think she could make it through 4 years in college living on campus and no one finding out she carries a gun. At the very least her room mate would know and all it would take is one slip of the tongue for trouble to occur.

The consequences would be severe and lifelong. It's not worth it.

I think the best I can do is check out pepper spray/mace that attaches to her room key chain. Its not much but better than nothing. She has already taken the self defense classes offered on campus and never goes out without a buddy or three.

In all likelihood, she'll be fine. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

 

[JoshuaW]

University of Illinois PD has something like 53 officers. I'd say that's pretty big.

For how many students? Roughly 40,000 according to the Wiki article. Now, Im not sure if that is all the campuses, or just the main campus, and obviously not all of them are living on campus. If there were 10,000 students on campus at one given time, and ALL the cops were working, there would be 188 students for each cop. All of this is irrelevant though (but a good example, so I ran with it). My friend is going to a school in Illinois, not at Illinois. Her school is much smaller and has far fewer campus police. They have like 10 or so, and 1800 students on campus. The local PD only has three cruisers, so they arent much help either. Oh yeah, and the OP was talking about an Indiana school

I think awareness is a big part of it. College students, especially female college students, dont tend to think about their safety. College campuses are a place of false security, IMO.