Want an AR style PDW using Beretta 92 mags

[snorko]

I want a PDW style braced pistol which uses Ber 92 mags. Why Freedom Ordnance, PSA, or Foxtrot Mike doesn't make one is beyond me. I have a slew of 20 and 30 round factory Beretta magazines for my CX4, but I want to pair something up with a 92 pistol that I can shoot suppressed. I love my CZ Scorpion EVO pistol and if that or a PSA ARV used Beretta mags it would be perfect.

It looks like about the only way to go is a Sterns adapter & upper (why not) on some basic AR lower. If I order some basic multi cal lower from PSA or such, will the stock spring & buffer function with the 9mm upper?

 

[snorko]

Also, any real negative by going with a 4" over 6" barrel? I want to be able to snug the can into the handguard some.

 

[BigMoose]

Why would you want that? Just SBR a CX4.

 

[snorko]

Why would you want that? Just SBR a CX4.

Can I get the giggle switch with that?

But honestly that might be another option. Still want the AR style but I think it would look veery cool and be functional. I kinda don't want to accumulate a bunch of SBRs though.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

I kinda don't want to accumulate a bunch of SBRs though.

I think I've found the root issue of your situation...

 

[BigMoose]

Can I get the giggle switch with that?

But honestly that might be another option. Still want the AR style but I think it would look veery cool and be functional. I kinda don't want to accumulate a bunch of SBRs though.

I wish we could.

 

[snorko]

I think I've found the root issue of your situation...

Wait, what is the wait time on efile form 1s?

 

[snorko]

Also, any real negative by going with a 4" over 6" barrel? I want to be able to snug the can into the handguard some.

Meant to say 4" versus 8" barrel. Likely will be shot mostly suppressed.

 

[snorko]

Also, my experience with the Stern adapters is brief and with ETS mags. Has anyone used one for a while and can comment on the durability?

 

[nipprdog]

Wait, what is the wait time on efile form 1s?

mine was 12 days.

 

[Ark]

AR9s generally don't work very well.

Nobody uses Beretta mags for PCCs except the CX4.

PCCs work better with PCC specific magazines like the Scorpion or MP5 pattern than they do with double-to-single pistol mags.

Glock mags are cheap and Scorpion mags are cheap.

Buy an MPX or micro Scorpion or maybe PMX, and just drop $150 on all the mags you need and call it a day. It'll be cheaper and you'll have a better experience than pouring money and time into cludging something together because you're married to the magazines you have. It's still a free state, we can still buy whatever magazines we want.

 

[snorko]

AR9s generally don't work very well.

Nobody uses Beretta mags for PCCs except the CX4.

PCCs work better with PCC specific magazines like the Scorpion or MP5 pattern than they do with double-to-single pistol mags.

Glock mags are cheap and Scorpion mags are cheap.

Buy an MPX or micro Scorpion or maybe PMX, and just drop $150 on all the mags you need and call it a day. It'll be cheaper and you'll have a better experience than pouring money and time into cludging something together because you're married to the magazines you have. It's still a free state, we can still buy whatever magazines we want.

Why do you hate freedom?

I am aware of all that. I have a Scorpion, a KP-9, a CX4, and I have owned a variety of AR 9mm pistols using Glock and M&P mags. I happen to have a butt-load of 20 & 30 round Beretta mags and want another platform using those so I can pretend that mag compatibility matters.

 

[Ark]

Why do you hate freedom?

I am aware of all that. I have a Scorpion, a KP-9, a CX4, and I have owned a variety of AR 9mm pistols using Glock and M&P mags. I happen to have a butt-load of 20 & 30 round Beretta mags and want another platform using those so I can pretend that mag compatibility matters.

 

[snorko]

Honestly I just need the fever to run its course. Your points are solid and unless Wilson Combat makes another run of their AR pistols using Beretta Mags, I doubt I will ever fully give into the craving.

 

[marvin02]

https://palmettostatearmory.com/stern-defense-ar15-mag-well-adapter-for-beretta-92-mags-mag-adb92.html

MAG-ADB92

Convert your standard mil spec AR 15, M4, M16 lower assembly to use 9mm Beretta 92 Magazines! The MAG-AD series adapters install in seconds. Boasting a la...

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Pricey option, but it's an option.

 

[63PGP]

Also, my experience with the Stern adapters is brief and with ETS mags. Has anyone used one for a while and can comment on the durability?

I've had a 9mm Stern upper and Glock mag adapter since 2019. It's been on / off an older Sig M400 AR pistol. Never had any issue with it other than the set screw that holds the adapter came loose a couple times. But that was after running over 400-500 rounds.

Takes some thought when dropping the mag since the adapter has its own mag release rather than the standard AR release. Due to that I consider it only a range product.

Now it sits in its box since I converted the M400 to use the MCX-Spear upper.

 

[goob469]

Here's another thought... The Ruger PC Carbine (or in this case the PC Charger). As we all know it comes with Ruger and Glock mag adaptors. But, I just did some googling and there are a few 3rd parties making Beretta 92 mag adaptors. Here's an example of one on ebay-

RB9B adapter for Beretta 92 magazines in Ruger PC Carbine | eBay

A basic button is included for your convenience. This adapter permits a use of Beretta 92 magazines in Ruger PC Carbine. But it is different from our traditional RA9B.A certain number of our users requested a our adapter made from a heavy duty material.

www.ebay.com

Disclaimer - I know nothing about this company or this adaptor - I'm just a random guy on the internet.

 

[snorko]

Indeed I have seen those and thought about it. I've only handled the Ruger a couple times and it is heavy for a PCC/PCP. this whole thing started when I took a 4" barreled AR pistol in trade. It used Glock mags but was just a hoot to play with. Since I am not going to drop $2,200 on a Wilson Combat pistol, I'm going to go the Stern route.