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  • JTScribe

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    On a FB post about the unfortunate accidental shooting of the child up in Broad Ripple, someone said this as a reason to support more gun control. There is no such thing, right?

    "My glock doesn't have to be chambered. Pull the trigger and it chambers one, pull again, it fires. That is why you WATCH your kids and keep the gun out of reach and locked (i bought a trigger lock)


     

    rockhopper46038

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    It is very hard to argue with people that don't have the capacity to reason. You could list multiple "things" that should be "controlled" because children die, and they will simply look at you with a blank state and say "guns, bad".
     

    GodFearinGunTotin

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    On a FB post about the unfortunate accidental shooting of the child up in Broad Ripple, someone said this as a reason to support more gun control. There is no such thing, right?

    "My glock doesn't have to be chambered. Pull the trigger and it chambers one, pull again, it fires. That is why you WATCH your kids and keep the gun out of reach and locked (i bought a trigger lock)



    Ask them to quote the owner's manual and/or point to a YouTube video or something to back that claim up.
     

    JTScribe

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    You don't chamber a round in a glock when you pull the trigger on an empty chamber.

    It was one of those things where I was like, "That guys obviously full of it, but there was still that 1% in the back of my mind going, heck, I don't know, not a Glock fan, maybe they have some new super-secret technology." LOL
     

    Kagnew

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    "My glock doesn't have to be chambered. Pull the trigger and it chambers one, pull again, it fires. That is why you WATCH your kids and keep the gun out of reach and locked (i bought a trigger lock)

    Just one more reason to outlaw Glocks (in addition to them being plastic and butt-ugly). :whistle:
     

    MCgrease08

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    Defensive gun uses far outweigh the number of gun deaths. This child's death was more a case of negligence. Guns can be dangerous, but the only thing that would have for sure prevented it would be a complete and utter ban and confiscation of guns, certainly not simply more "gun control."

    [video=youtube;YbYB6ACcRNk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbYB6ACcRNk&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/video]
     

    gunandrun

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    If my Glock work that way I would like it a lot more. I think there are a lot gun owners who do not understand that the chance of an accidental shooting is greater then a intruder into their home.
     

    1911ly

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    I would guess that more kids die drowning every year then from gun accidents. We don't ban water. We teach our kids to swim. Gun safety should be taught to all kids. We teach the hazards of doing drugs. Smoking etc. Why not teach gun safety awareness. Enough ranting from me....
     

    BiscuitNaBasket

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    On a FB post about the unfortunate accidental shooting of the child up in Broad Ripple, someone said this as a reason to support more gun control. There is no such thing, right?

    "My glock doesn't have to be chambered. Pull the trigger and it chambers one, pull again, it fires. That is why you WATCH your kids and keep the gun out of reach and locked (i bought a trigger lock)


    LOL. :lmfao:Such bull:poop:
     

    chezuki

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    If my Glock work that way I would like it a lot more. I think there are a lot gun owners who do not understand that the chance of an accidental shooting is greater then a intruder into their home.

    Uh-oh.... a warning light just came on.

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    alex00

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    On a FB post about the unfortunate accidental shooting of the child up in Broad Ripple, someone said this as a reason to support more gun control. There is no such thing, right?

    "My glock doesn't have to be chambered. Pull the trigger and it chambers one, pull again, it fires. That is why you WATCH your kids and keep the gun out of reach and locked (i bought a trigger lock)



    First off, not to sound rude but I'd suggest you do some research and come up with opinions on your own and not just listen to people on Facebook or on the gun board. Look up statistics and studies done on both sides of the argument and then come to a conclusion based on your findings. Here's a tip: the best way to win an argument is to know more about the other person's stance than they do. For example: if you believe gun control is bad, don't just read up on information from other people who think it is bad. Read info from people who are pro-gun control, find holes in their argument, and then debunk it that way. I hate listening to arguments where people know a great deal about their own opinion but have no clue how to refute what the other person is saying so its a completely redundant argument. Just like people who don't like Obama but know nothing about him, his life, his ideologies, etc. so they just spout off about nonsense. I myself dislike Obama but I've read both of his autobiographies, listen to his speeches, etc. that way I can make a rational argument against him, not just say "oh he's a Muslim that wasn't born in America so I hate him."

    Secondly, if that guy was serious about his Glock, I do applaud him for taking safety precautions, but that fact that he obviously has no clue how his gun works scares me because he's either very dumb or just doesn't know how to operate a firearm. Either way he probably shouldn't own a gun.
     
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    BiscuitNaBasket

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    First off, not to sound rude but I'd suggest you do some research and come up with opinions on your own and not just listen to people on Facebook or on the gun board. Look up statistics and studies done on both sides of the argument and then come to a conclusion based on your findings. Here's a tip: the best way to win an argument is to know more about the other person's stance than they do. For example: if you believe gun control is bad, don't just read up on information from other people who think it is bad. Read info from people who are pro-gun control, find holes in their argument, and then debunk it that way. I hate listening to arguments where people know a great deal about their own opinion but have no clue how to refute what the other person is saying so its a completely redundant argument. Just like people who don't like Obama but know nothing about him, his life, his ideologies, etc. so they just spout off about nonsense. I myself dislike Obama but I've read both of his autobiographies, listen to his speeches, etc. that way I can make a rational argument against him, not just say "oh he's a Muslim that wasn't born in America so I hate him."

    Secondly, if that guy was serious about his Glock, I do applaud him for taking safety precautions, but that fact that he obviously has no clue how his gun works scares me because he's either very dumb or just doesn't know how to operate a firearm. Either way he probably shouldn't own a gun.
    This post actually makes a lot of sense and provides some good input. Coming from someone with a post count under 10 I am blown away by that. No offense intended alex00 but we get a lot of trolls and people making a run for the classifieds around here. If I hadn't given out too much rep within the last 24 hours I'd give you some.

    edit: and you edited for spelling. alex00's a keeper. Welcome to :ingo: by the way. :)
     

    MCgrease08

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    Is it even possible to "win an argument" on Facebook? Most people aren't swayed by logic on the internet. They just want to have their own views spit back at them. That's pretty much the main reason I deleted my FB account. Well, that and the ads.
     

    sliptap

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    Statistically speaking: if society as a whole was actually concerned about the safety of children, we would have stricter driving regulations. Automobiles kill more children than firearms do.

    I usually tell others that then ask them if they are prepared to drive a lot slower to save lives, because their driving is way more dangerous than me carrying a pistol...until they give up their rights why should I?

    http://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/pdf/10LCID_Unintentional_Deaths_2010-a.pdf
     

    dmarsh8

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    With this post I truly miss the grammar NAZI

    This post actually makes a lot of sense and provides some good input. Coming from someone with a post count under 10 I am blown away by that. No offense intended alex00 but we get a lot of trolls and people making a run for the classifieds around here. If I hadn't given out too much rep within the last 24 hours I'd give you some.
    +1

    LOL. :lmfao:Such bull:poop:
    most things out of peoples keyboards on FB= bull :poop:
     

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