VP DEBATE TONIGHT

[IncendiaryGunner]

I have no skin in the game.

Truth is truth regardless of what I do or do not believe.

Do you have a fossil of the transitional species?

Have you found the "missing link"?

If so, please post. Many would be interested.

I think you miss the point.

Evolutionary theory could be proven incorrect - and this would not in itself support the "theory" of ID. If a random person on the internet can provide enough empirical evidence to make people accept evolutionary theory as scientific law has nothing to do with it.

For ID to be considered science, you first have to remove God from the concept completely. Then, to support that theory of intelligent design - you need evidence.

See how this always comes down to providing evidence?

 

[John James]

I think you miss the point.

Evolutionary theory could be proven incorrect - and this would not in itself support the "theory" of ID. If a random person on the internet can provide enough empirical evidence to make people accept evolutionary theory as scientific law has nothing to do with it.

For ID to be considered science, you first have to remove God from the concept completely. Then, to support that theory of intelligent design - you need evidence.

See how this always comes down to providing evidence?

My question was directed at level.eleven, but no big deal.

Like I said, I have no skin in the game.

Do you have a fossil of the transitional species?

Have you found the "missing link"?

If so, please post. Many would be interested.

 

[IncendiaryGunner]

My question was directed at level.eleven, but no big deal.

Like I said, I have no skin in the game.

Do you have a fossil of the transitional species?

Have you found the "missing link"?

If so, please post. Many would be interested.

I do not personally own any fossils. Do you? Ida is considered by some to be just that transitional species.... (the one I provided already)

This is relevant to teaching intelligent design in schools in what way?

Stating that a theory is not a law - does not support an external theory.

 

[John James]

I do not personally own any fossils. Do you?

This is relevant to teaching intelligent design in schools in what way?

Stating that a theory is not a law - does not support an external theory.

I do not have any.

Are you aware of any?

Do you have the "missing link"?

If you do, please post.

Many would be interested.

Such items may well help advance the theory of evolution beyond theory and faith.

I have no skin in the game... Truth is what truth is.

 

[IncendiaryGunner]

I do not have any.

Are you aware of any?

Do you have the "missing link"?

If you do, please post.

Many would be interested.

Such items may well help advance the theory of evolution beyond theory and faith.

I have no skin in the game... Truth is what truth is.

Um, I did post a picture of the possible missing link...

... Ida...

Possibly??

If you believe in evolutionary theories, you believe.

Faith has to do with questions that cannot be settled with evidence.

 

[John James]

That is only the "possible" missing link.

It's still a theory folks.

 

[IncendiaryGunner]

That is only the "possible" missing link.

It's still a theory folks.

Ofcourse it is - that is why it is referred to as a theory.

Even scientific laws are not known by man to be universal absolute technical facts - they are highly educated guesses that have demonstrated themselves without conflict.

 

[Caleb]

Ofcourse it is - that is why it is referred to as a theory.

Technically speaking, even scientific laws are not universal absolute technical facts - they are man made assumptions.

Natural science is a body of evidence gathered in a very specific manner. To be considered such, it has to abide by the rules. If the rules cannot be played by, we don't call it science. If the rules are followed, but nothing is given - it is not considered legitimate.

both require faith, and neither can be proven as truth....now how about getting back on topic?

 

[John James]

Ofcourse it is - that is why it is referred to as a theory.

Even scientific laws are not known by man to be universal absolute technical facts - they are highly educated guesses that have demonstrated themselves without conflict.

And how is the theory not consistent with intelligent design?

 

[John James]

both require faith, and neither can be proven as truth....now how about getting back on topic?

Good point...

(BTW, Biden may be a piece of evidence that would run counter to the theory of intelligent design and evolution.)

 

[IncendiaryGunner]

And how is the theory not consistent with intelligent design?

Two theories not being mutually exclusive, and one supporting the other, is not the same thing.

To provide evidence of intelligent design, you would have to provide evidence of an intelligent designer.

The difference between belief and faith is if it can be supported by evidence. The belief in scientific theory does not require faith.

 

[John James]

Two theories not being mutually exclusive, and one supporting the other, is not the same thing.

The difference between belief and faith is if it can be supported by evidence. Natural science does not require faith.

Sure.

Like I said, I have no skin in the game.

 

[IncendiaryGunner]

Sure.

Like I said, I have no skin in the game.

I don't either, I just like discussing common science related fallacies.

 

[John James]

I don't either, I just like discussing common science related fallacies.

Absolutely.

The thread is getting jacked though.

Perhaps a new thread should be opened.

 

[IncendiaryGunner]

It is interesting how big of a difference the polls seem to be as far as the outcome of the debate.

Not that the VP debate matters much in the general election anyway - but everyone seems to think their guy came out on top.

 

[John James]

Arguing about whether Biden or Ryan won the debate is like arguing whether the toss showed heads or tails.... It's still the same coin.

 

[GREEN607]

How old is the Earth?

Older than dirt....

What do I win?

 

[John James]

Winner winner!!

Chicken dinner!!

 

[Survivalcookie]

My children always side with me. I cannot count the number of times one of my boys have come home from school and posed a question based on something a teacher has said. I simply tell them the teacher is wrong and point them in the direction to further educate themselves so they do not just have to take my word for it.

There were at least 2 occasions I had to restrain myself from going to the school and giving the teacher an education. Thank God for beer and tobacco

I know been there my self several times...now I am raising a grand child, he is very smart and I am old...like my grandson taking a few spent shells to school for show and tell...my kids took shells to school after shooting the big guns on my husband ship and it was ok...they panic now.

 

[Phil502]

Misssing Link? He's right here. WTH.