US has sown the seeds of it's own destruction.

[sepe]

You mean like the one's the Ron Paul supporters puked up? Is THAT what you meant? Somehow I doubt it.....

Actually, yes. I saw some blind Ron Paul supporters puking up conspiracies with zero proof of truth to them. I find that extremely obnoxious as well.

 

[Captain Bligh]

I don't think ANYONE on this forum thinks that Romney is as bad as Obama...

I'm pretty sure you are wrong about that.

 

[iwearcowboyboots]

I'm pretty sure you are wrong about that.

I like fiscal conservative, supporting all gun rights Mitt Romney. I think pro-bailout, brady bill (ballistic fingerprinting and other anti-gun issues) Mitt Romney is garbage.

At least I can trust Obama to be for things I don't like. I can't bring myself to trust Romney on any position because he has been a vocal cheerleader for multiple sides of many many issues. John Kerry is jealous I'm sure.

I'm not saying he isn't a swell guy in his personal life, but the guy stood for little other than getting elected.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

That Romney claimed he was a progressive. Let's be honest with ourselves. What SOLID positions does Romney hold that differ from Obama's? Of the positions that differ, what actually have anything to do with the powers of the executive branch?

Military policy and priorities.

Tax policy.

Environmental regulations.

Judicial nominations.

Staffing the Executive Branch.

The President is a negotiator and cheerleader for budget/tax/social programs/etc and his pen ONLY approves or vetoes. The real work is done in Congress and the make up of Congress hardly changed. More gridlock and grandstanding.

2014 matters far more than 2012.

The President does far more than act as a cheerleader.

 

[firehawk1]

Actually, yes. I saw some blind Ron Paul supporters puking up conspiracies with zero proof of truth to them. I find that extremely obnoxious as well.

Then I was wrong, I stand corrected.

 

[Bunnykid68]

They firmly planted those seeds in 1935

 

[CathyInBlue]

People don't want something to vote against. People wand something to vote for. That's what Romney was. That's all Romney was, a vote against Obama. As such, he was not a compelling argument, and never could be.

If the Republican Party wants to regain relevance, they have to give the American people something to vote for again, and that's not Social Conservatism.

 

[Survivalcookie]

Describes my thoughts exactly. As we got closer to the election I was confident our road to socialism would halt. Now, still in shock from the results I ask; what am I missing that over half of the country sees? Nothing we see in the next four years will surprise me. Seems a solution would be red state secession.

Your free stuff..

 

[techres]

If the Republican Party wants to regain relevance, they have to give the American people something to vote for again, and that's not Social Conservatism.

BINGO!!!

We have a winner.

 

[Survivalcookie]

People don't want something to vote against. People wand something to vote for. That's what Romney was. That's all Romney was, a vote against Obama. As such, he was not a compelling argument, and never could be.

If the Republican Party wants to regain relevance, they have to give the American people something to vote for again, and that's not Social Conservatism.

Romney was compelling I really think he would have brought our deficit to a halt. He would of lifted regulation that would of created job growth. Obama on the other hand has more regulations waiting in the wings that will jobs. Cap trade will go full force, Obama care and many other environment regulations that will kill jobs, and keep printing money...making us Greece in a few years.

But the dens did their job very well fear mongering. Those who get free stuff want to keep getting free stuff...and then you have those who have drank to much kool-aid.

 

[iwearcowboyboots]

Military policy and priorities.

Tax policy.

Environmental regulations.

Judicial nominations.

Staffing the Executive Branch.



The President does far more than act as a cheerleader.

The head cheerleader? He probably gets to plan some of the choreography and comes up with some of the sassy cadences.

So what of that other than military policy/priority (to an extent) do not require green lights from some guys across town? I suppose the president could tell people to stop enforcing tax policy or environmental regs. I suppose staffing would matter if key positions weren't lobbyists that put money in both parties' pockets (or the the lobbyists' hand selected stooges).

 

[Kirk Freeman]

So what of that other than military policy/priority (to an extent) do not require green lights from some guys across town?

The entire internal operation of the Executive Branch, from regulation to policy priority, and the external operation of the Judicial Branch.

Saying that the Presidency is not relevant is just silly.

I suppose the president could tell people to stop enforcing tax policy or environmental regs.

Correct. Just like Obama did with DOMA.

 

[spearheadersarge]

I can't wait till the "people" get a whiff of all the new taxes coming down the pike for Obamacare. People don't have a clue. How long do you think we can keep going with trillion $ deficits? Eventually, all the rich peoples' money will run out and then that $250k limit will start to creep lower and the high end rate will creep up. Sooner or later, we will all be paying more. It gets real tough when no one can find a job cause all the regulations and taxes are killing businesses. I see doom and gloom ahead for sure!

 

[super duty1]

Well said SpearHead! We are on the fast track for failure!

 

[beararms1776]

That commercial is really good but I don't see how that group can stay funded. people continually keep voting for more government waste

It's easy. They just lie to you.

 

[iwearcowboyboots]

The entire internal operation of the Executive Branch, from regulation to policy priority, and the external operation of the Judicial Branch.

Saying that the Presidency is not relevant is just silly.

In 1992, we got Clinton. He made a push for single payer healthcare and couldn't get it despite Democrats having majorities in Congress. Congress did hand him AWB... And then the 1994 midterms happened.

The Presidency is not irrelevant, but it is not all things government. I love how the make-up of Congress does not change and the incumbent President is re-elected and we are supposed to pretend it is now magically the death of the nation. Even more humorous is the notion that crisis would have been averted had we only been wise enough to elect the Rock of Gibraltar personified in Mitt Romney.

Or is the party already planning on throwing away 2014? Maybe I am wrong and all these posts about how the sun will never rise again are correct...

Correct. Just like Obama did with DOMA.

Yikes! He let the states define marriage. No wonder why our national debt is spiralling out of control!

 

[spec4]

If 'ifs' and 'buts' were candies and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas.

Didn't use either word in my post. You have a Merry Christmas.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

He made a push for single payer healthcare and couldn't get it despite Democrats having majorities in Congress.

Clinton gave us Ruth Bader Mellencamp Ginsburg and Steven Breyer who later upheld the ACA.

The Presidency matters.

love how the make-up of Congress does not change and the incumbent President is re-elected and we are supposed to pretend it is now magically the death of the nation.

Don't let the Chicken Littles of INGO get you down, sir.

 

[iwearcowboyboots]

Clinton gave us Ruth Bader Mellencamp Ginsburg and Steven Breyer who later upheld the ACA.

The Presidency matters.

And Bush gave us John Roberts who later upheld the ACA.

Don't let the Chicken Littles of INGO get you down, sir.

I don't have time to. I'm too busy running back and forth all over the county buying up every shipment of new ammo and guns with shoulder things that go up.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

And Bush gave us John Roberts who later upheld the ACA.

Right, exactly, thank you for acknowledging that the Presidency matters.