To mask or not to mask....That is the question. Part II

[jkaetz]

School choice would make huge changes. John Stossel has great videos on this (yeah, forgive me, I think the Libertarians are right on this one). Make the money follow the student, not the school. Let the student and their parent(s) decide where they should go and only provide the same payment you would regardless of whether it was public education or not. Let it get figured out just like the "free market" but keep your thumb off the scale. Public schools would either be fixed or gone. If a school underperforms or teaches what parents don't like, they're gone. Teachers unions? GONE. They are nothing but poison and should be removed from the harm they cause our children.

This would be fantastic, until equity and inclusivity gets weaponized. It wouldn't be fair after all to leave out the underprivileged and underserved...

 

[wtburnette]

This would be fantastic, until equity and inclusivity gets weaponized. It wouldn't be fair after all to leave out the underprivileged and underserved...

Same. For. Everyone. Hard to **** up.

 

[Ingomike]

This would be fantastic, until equity and inclusivity gets weaponized. It wouldn't be fair after all to leave out the underprivileged and underserved...

Actually some of the highest polling support for vouchers is inner city minorites…

 

[wtburnette]

Actually some of the highest polling support for vouchers is inner city minorites…

He has a good video highlighting one of the schools in NYC and the parents and students line up around the block in a line hundreds long to get their kids into the school. The school holds a lottery for admissions. Those not selected are crushed. The statistics for the testing score averages from this Charter school with NYC public schools is pretty revealing. There are multiple videos, but here's one:

 

[jamil]

Really? There is a time to disagree with the teachers. My laugh for the day. Most teachers are fresh from collegiate indoctrination centers and cannot allow disagreement…

Most? Fresh? Really?

 

[Ingomike]

Most? Fresh? Really?

Those I meet. But there are plenty of indoctrination continuing education updates…

 

[JettaKnight]

There are more parents out there that should not in any way shape or form be teaching their kids.

+1


And I don't feel like supporting people via welfare because they don't have parents who can educate them.


I'd rather pay via taxes to educate children to become taxpayers themselves rather than pay for their benefits for the rest of their lives. (or pay for their jail cell)

 

[JettaKnight]

Most? Fresh? Really?

Don't burst his precious little bubble of (dis)information.

 

[tim87tr]

So I have a mask travel story. Was vacationing in AZ and visited Ft. Bowie. Hike out to the old fort site, lots of informational panels on how the US calvary/gov dealt with the Native Americans. You know the story, it's not a good one. The Fed visitor center of course still has the mask mandate. Didn't go in.

It's just historically ironic that the Fed Gov took away the freedoms of the Indians and told them what to do. Present day still doing it at the visitor center. Geronimo fought against big Gov for 10 years until finally overtaken. The citizens of the US seem to be at this point now. How will it turn out?

 

[jamil]

Those I meet. But there are plenty of indoctrination continuing education updates…

I’d be right there agreeing if you said ‘most’. But I don’t think ‘most’ is accurate. I also suspect it’s a much bigger problem in urban schools than it is in rural schools. The high school my son went to was pretty decent. He said he only had one teacher that he thought was woke. It’s a shame to hear about the older teachers leaving the profession/retiring early because they’ll be replaced by younger ideologues. Though I don’t think it’s a majority now, within a few years it may be.

 

[ancjr]

 

[oze]

In case anybody has issues with the INGO moderators, let me tell you that this place is heaven compared to another site that I (used to) belong to. It's ostensibly a White Sox fan board, with 99% monolithic leftist mindset, and the corresponding covid enthusiasts/panic porn addicts. Disagreement with the Hive is *not* tolerated.

Anyway, here is the post to which my response got me banned. One of the saddest things I have read in a very long time:

"I'm perplexed, all of a sudden masks just about all over the country are no longer needed. We've gone along with masks almost from day one, to tell the truth it's going to be hard to ditch them."

 

[jamil]

In case anybody has issues with the INGO moderators, let me tell you that this place is heaven compared to another site that I (used to) belong to. It's ostensibly a White Sox fan board, with 99% monolithic leftist mindset, and the corresponding covid enthusiasts/panic porn addicts. Disagreement with the Hive is *not* tolerated.

Anyway, here is the post to which my response got me banned. One of the saddest things I have read in a very long time:

"I'm perplexed, all of a sudden masks just about all over the country are no longer needed. We've gone along with masks almost from day one, to tell the truth it's going to be hard to ditch them."

That last paragraph is about what I would expect from people who have clung to them as if they helped them get through the pandemic. Not that I’m saying they think they’re magic. Or a lucky charm. It’s just something they’ve come to believe it’s something they can do to save themselves. A protector.

I’ve seen so many people wear their masks under their noses, not clean masks, but filthy, like they’ve worn the same one for many days. And they give me dirty looks for not wearing one. That suggests they really believe in wearing them. But that dirty surgical mask they’re wearing under their noses isn’t doing anything. They just believe it is. So now, how can they do without this thing?

 

[wtburnette]

I've had an epiphany that masks are the handgun of the indoctrinated. We carry our handguns for the protection of ourselves, our loved ones and others as the case may be. The indoctrinated wear their masks for a similar reason. Some of the Left too perhaps, but I believe they wear them mostly to virtue signal to show how much they care about others, or how much better they are then those who don't wear masks...

 

[jamil]

It’s a good point about virtue signaling. We know it’s at least that for the ideologues. David Hog once admitted as much. I think the people who wear masks for delusional reasons tend to be on the left regardless. They’re more likely to listen to media which push the mask propaganda.

Yes mbills, I said propaganda. After it became known that covid spreads by aerosolized particles and not just “droplets” (in quotes to help the reader hear that in Fauci’s voice) that’s the point where masking makes much less sense. Continued faith in them becomes dubious. Then after the Bangladesh study destroyed the rationale behind mask mandates, any faith left that they provide a reliable, significant protection against covid went out the window. It’s all delusion from there and news reporting which doesn’t acknowledge that is propaganda.

 

[wtburnette]

It’s a good point about virtue signaling. We know it’s at least that for the ideologues. David Hog once admitted as much. I think the people who wear masks for delusional reasons tend to be on the left regardless. They’re more likely to listen to media which push the mask propaganda.

Yes mbills, I said propaganda. After it became known that covid spreads by aerosolized particles and not just “droplets” (in quotes to help the reader hear that in Fauci’s voice) that’s the point where masking makes much less sense. Continued faith in them becomes dubious. Then after the Bangladesh study destroyed the rationale behind mask mandates, any faith left that they provide a reliable, significant protection against covid went out the window. It’s all delusion from there.

The scary part to me is that this has been known for a long time. It's not like it's something new. As soon as we knew it was spread via airborne transmission, the need for masks went out the window. It was only somewhat effective when we thought the virus was only transmitted via bodily fluids. Too many people follow what they're told rather than thinking for themselves.

 

[Drewski]

The scary part to me is that this has been known for a long time. It's not like it's something new. As soon as we knew it was spread via airborne transmission, the need for masks went out the window. It was only somewhat effective when we thought the virus was only transmitted via bodily fluids. Too many people follow what they're told rather than thinking for themselves.

More info that has been known for a long time but has been blocked, banned, labeled misinformation, etc.

Vitamin D and severe Covid

From the study:

• Those in the deficient category (with 25D levels <20 ng/mL) made up 87% of severe Covid-19 cases.
• People who were deficient were up to 14 times more likely to have a severe Covid-19 outcome than people with 25D levels >40 ng/mL.

 

[Ingomike]

More info that has been known for a long time but has been blocked, banned, labeled misinformation, etc.

Vitamin D and severe Covid

From the study:

• Those in the deficient category (with 25D levels <20 ng/mL) made up 87% of severe Covid-19 cases.
• People who were deficient were up to 14 times more likely to have a severe Covid-19 outcome than people with 25D levels >40 ng/mL.

Been taking vitamin D since before this type of info came out, then boosted when it did. I have a scientist friend that jokes I have expensive pee, but his family gets sick so much more often than we do…

 

[wtburnette]

More info that has been known for a long time but has been blocked, banned, labeled misinformation, etc.

Vitamin D and severe Covid

From the study:

• Those in the deficient category (with 25D levels <20 ng/mL) made up 87% of severe Covid-19 cases.
• People who were deficient were up to 14 times more likely to have a severe Covid-19 outcome than people with 25D levels >40 ng/mL.

Been taking vitamin D since before this type of info came out, then boosted when it did. I have a scientist friend that jokes I have expensive pee, but his family gets sick so much more often than we do…

Yep, I'd been taking it at least 6 months prior to getting COVID. My case was pretty severe even with plenty of vitamin D in my system (as well as zinc, vitamin C, quercitin and more).

 

[Ingomike]

Yep, I'd been taking it at least 6 months prior to getting COVID. My case was pretty severe even with plenty of vitamin D in my system (as well as zinc, vitamin C, quercitin and more).

I am not implying it is an all out cure or prophylactic, just in the general sense we do not get sick as often as our friends…